Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1140 Spoilers Discussion

[Etzel Andergast]

Boring chapter and boring discussion

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Easy.

- Old Garp blitzed an Admiral twice.
- Shanks has no speed feat of note. Gotta wait.
- Kaido was blitzed by Luffy.
- Luffy was blitzed to oblivion by an Admiral.

= Old Garp is faster than all Yonkou. At best you can say that Luffy and Garp are roughly equal.

Is that enough bro ?
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This is where your argument falls apart. Now you can only yap. The moment you used an explanation like that is when you've lost.

And Kaido blitzed Luffy. In fact he not only blitzed him but he also dodged his attacks with FS.
So he both blitzed a FS user but also dodged a FS user with incredibly fast attacks.
Also Luffy got blitzed by the fastest Admiral lol

 

[OPKnK]

Same for DF merchants.

Except for Zoro. Give him a breakfast set with spoon, fork and butter knife and he fights an admiral with santoryou. He's proven more than once he doesn't need his primary weapons for named attacks. With adv CoA, adv CoC he could even fistfight. Or do no swords style.

Also Meme, Kaido and WB. They're beasts on their own.

They not really on there own .
WB had supreme blade and most power DF in the world .
I would say aside from BM we not really see anything that show there beast on there own .

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Gaban defeated Luffy? It was probably embarrassing for luffy but he didn't lose.
Even if you want to claim that Luffy went all out in the end then you have to accept that Gaban went all out when he used the axes and you already know how that ended.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Luffy in base form without Acoc, only with: FS, ACOA, and BASE vs Kaidou:

This idiot really pulled the only 3 out of 1000 panels where base Luffy didn’t fight Kaido completely equally lmfao

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

And Kaido blitzed Luffy. In fact he not only blitzed him but he also dodged his attacks with FS.
So he both blitzed a FS user but also dodged a FS user with incredibly fast attacks.
Also Luffy got blitzed by the fastest Admiral lol

Coulda worded this better but I'm busy right now so I'll do that later

 

[sanzolu]

Fine by me, if Luffy doesn't use CoC in base admit you all that gaban is low diff material for ray
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Let's remember Ray did better than G4 against kizaru.

"equals"

Ray fought a G4 luffy who was still in training. Gaban is fighting a much more stronger luffy. That luffy ray fought, was not even in katakuris level

 

[OPKnK]

And Kaido blitzed Luffy. In fact he not only blitzed him but he also dodged his attacks with FS.
So he both blitzed a FS user but also dodged a FS user with incredibly fast attacks.
Also Luffy got blitzed by the fastest Admiral lol

We talking about blitz but the fastest admrial get blitz by luffy and went down for a while .
yeah Kizaru was the l winner of that fight but that still happen .
Really in this manga that shit happen to everyone some way or the other lol.

 

[Redboy776]

FS is haki and it basically makes him faster, conqueror's haki making someone faster is that unbelievable to you when Asura exists?

Zoro coo so good he can fight equally with futur sign user and even got better reaction time too.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Let's not take things too far. From what I can tell, Gaban clowned pre-G4 Luffy. I presume he did not use CoC either. Even most YC1s would dominate pre-G4 Luffy when he's not using CoC, so someone like Gaban should be able to handle him fairly easily.

Not to take anything from Gaban, he's got a fair share of hype from the fact that Luffy felt the need to go G5 directly after competing with him, and Zoro stepped in to save Luffy, which he usually doesn't do. That's decent enough hype for an old-timer. This isn't a negative for Luffy.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Since people love to cap Zoro at rooftop level and erase anything past that from their memories, is current Zoro even stronger than this one?

 

[[No Name]]

This idiot really pulled the only 3 out of 1000 panels where base Luffy didn’t fight Kaido completely equally lmfao

This is cocc luffy did luffy use it against Laban? No

 

[Thaidakar]

They not really on there own .
WB had supreme blade and most power DF in the world .
I would say aside from BM we not really see anything that show there beast on there own .

Whitebeard survived 152 bullets and half his head was gone. 267 sword wounds (stabs or slashes).

For comparison, 1 bullet in the head is enough to kill DF less goofy.
Not to forget his zoan enhances even his base stats.

1 stab from Shiryu decimated 95HP of Garp

WB was undoubtedly a monster.

 

[OPKnK]

Ray fought a G4 luffy who was still in training. Gaban is fighting a much more stronger luffy. That luffy ray fought, was not even in katakuris level

He still fighting in base which still slower and weaker than even past G4 in certain aspects .
Luffy issues with Kat had nothing to with his gear power but haki .
Which is why when he learn FS he use the same gears 4 on Kat .

 

[Redboy776]

Lucci: "I don't view strawhat as an emperor"

Zoro:

Lucci:

Gaban: "Let's see if you're worthy, Luffy"

Zoro:

Gaban:

They trying to bully emperor luffy


but good thing he has Woro.

 

[[No Name]]

From what I can tell, Gaban clowned pre-G4 Luffy. I presume he did not use CoC either. Even most YC1s would dominate pre-G4 Luffy when he's not using CoC, so someone like Gaban should be able to handle him fairly easily.

Exactly what people are missing out.

This is way I am disapointed especially after they sold me gaban as equal to Ray.

While Ray could keep under track kizaru who dominated G4 at EH.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

This is cocc luffy did luffy use it against Laban? No

You CoCksuckers are hilarious lmfao

Imagine honestly believing Oda would just stop using a major powerup he gave Luffy with no restrictions lmfao.

The truth is CoC is a nothing power and Oda doesn’t care about it at all.

 

[ZenZu]

Explain it then.

Explain how he couldn't dodge slow BASE KAIDO

But could then react to hybrid kaidos blitz with the only difference being acoc..

Bruh...this is like the easiest explanation ever. And it follows a clear progression.

In Kuri he got hit clean head on cause no Future Sight ---> beginning of roofpiece = half avoided half got clipped cause he used FS but was in base ---> Finally when he dodged it clean he used both Future Sight and Gear 2nd.

Got literally nothing to do with ACoC, he just used his precognition with his gears movement speed, where he didn't do both together.

 

[The DevilMaster]

This idiot really pulled the only 3 out of 1000 panels where base Luffy didn’t fight Kaido completely equally lmfao

Acoc Luffy.

We're talking about NON-ACOC LUFFY.

The same one who faced Kizaru.

Snakeman with basic Armament Haki and base Luffy with basic Armament Haki, who were utterly destroyed by Kaido, and neither of these versions can do anything against him, failing even to cause any damage.

Luffy in base form without Acoc, only with: FS, ACOA, and BASE vs Kaidou:

 

[soupongo]

Exactly what people are missing out.

This is way I am disapointed especially after they sold me gaban as equal to Ray.

While Ray could keep under track kizaru who dominated G4 at EH.

meds