Character Discussion Did Gaban used Conqueror's?

[Julius]

Idk yall but the lightning trails are exactly the same of CoC coating. There is an empty blank space around them, and there are flaws in the trails (like tiny holes and gaps)

And after the attack lands, we can still see them

I honestly see no difference from this, other than the quality of the image, which certainly affects the details (unofficial panels vs official VIZ)

Also, why did Luffy and Zoro felt so shocked here? They don't have an idea of who the old man is, so what explains such reaction? Perhaps they felt some unsettling aura?

Going a bit further into what Gaban showed this chapter... Did he saw the future here? This would explain he didn't care about dodging, he might've know that once he surrendered, Luffy and Zoro wouldn't try to land their moves on him.

 

[Paragorn]

Yes. And yes, Sanji is unlocking CoC

 

[Julius]

Yes. And yes, Sanji is unlocking CoC

While i acknowledge that during Katakuri vs Luffy, we can see similar trails during Zangiri Mochi, but Katakuri has CoC so he might leak regular CoC during those moves (not CoC coating tho obviously)

Similar when Doflamingo tried to step on Law who was lying on the ground and ended up clashing with Luffy, CoC had something to do with it.

Idk, i would say the odds are 60/50 for Gaban due to Luffy and Zoro's reaction even before he launched his move

 

[Roo]

I think so, people keep using panels pre adCoC reveal to somehow prove that isn’t and they’re missing the point

Oda likely decided to make those type of haki lightning adCoC only. I can’t think of a single CoA panel with lightning that thick

Either way it doesn’t matter, Waban’s haki is strong to shake Luffy’s boots

 

[SkySanji]

Maybe, maybe not, however nothing he did this chapter proves it.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Quick quick, summon the CoC Haki specialists to analyze the ink lines for Haki.

 

[Halyup]

Idk yall but the lightning trails are exactly the same of CoC coating. There is an empty blank space around them, and there are flaws in the trails (like tiny holes and gaps)

And after the attack lands, we can still see them

I honestly see no difference from this, other than the quality of the image, which certainly affects the details (unofficial panels vs official VIZ)

Also, why did Luffy and Zoro felt so shocked here? They don't have an idea of who the old man is, so what explains such reaction? Perhaps they felt some unsettling aura?

Going a bit further into what Gaban showed this chapter... Did he saw the future here? This would explain he didn't care about dodging, he might've know that once he surrendered, Luffy and Zoro wouldn't try to land their moves on him.

If ever this is adcoc then this is the weakest display of Advanced Conquerors
luffy didnt even recognize it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Not ruling it out I just don’t think so. I’ll wait for a clearer confirmation.

 

[Halyup]

Not ruling it out I just don’t think so. I’ll wait for a clearer confirmation.

Its most likely Advanced CoA or Ryou

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Its most likely Advanced CoA or Ryou

I think so too.

 

[Julius]

If ever this is adcoc then this is the weakest display of Advanced Conquerors
luffy didnt even recognize it

Luffy and Zoro refused to meet him later and they were shocked prior to the attack being lanched

Idk man

 

[Halyup]

I think so too.

Even scabbards used black lightning vs Kaido.
Its Ryou

 

[[No Name]]

I am not sure at all.

 

[Gunko]

we'll need an ink sample from the raw to really tell

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I think so, people keep using panels pre adCoC reveal to somehow prove that isn’t and they’re missing the point

Oda likely decided to make those type of haki lightning adCoC only. I can’t think of a single CoA panel with lightning that thick

Either way it doesn’t matter, Waban’s haki is strong to shake Luffy’s boots

The very concept of haki lightning was made up somewhere during Dressrosa. Haki god Shanks flexing his COC or his sky splitting clash with Whitebeard never leaked any single haki sparks. That's why I never bother with old panels when Oda introduces a new concept since the man obviously isn't autistic as we are when it comes to visual consistency in his 27 years long series

 

[grey matter]

Nothing aside from verbal confirmation means anything at this point, cause Loda is so ass with visuals.

Imagine giving same visuals (of lightning) to basic armament that even fodders have, advanced armament that elites fighters have, and advanced conqueror's that define handful of the strongest. Utter failure.

Loda caused too much confusion amongst the readers to the point dudes are micro analyzing lightning thickness, shape, curve etc.

 

[Ven437]

Visuals say no, could easily be CoA imbuing

Waban agenda says yessir, he stands shoulder to shoulder with CoC users Roger and Ray

 

[kekaro]

Where is the oda is a bum option

 

[Infitima]

Look at when he coats the key. It takes a flame-like appearance.

So far only conquerors have been shown to coat it like that.

 

[Moegara]

I think that he has aCoC, it's the only way he could have kept up with Roger and Ray, but if I looked at those panels in a void I wouldn't say he used it there.