Volume 111 - Discussion Thread (March 4th, 2025)

Urouge defeated Snack too, but complete got wrecked by Cracker, showing the gap between Cracker and Snakc lvl.

I think based on the power:
Cracker>Perospero>Snack.

Snack is a YC4lvl at best, can´t fight off YC3lvl characters.
I think Kid was stronger than Luffy until the Katakuri battle.

Kid had more skills and better arsenal of phyiscal skills.
I think unlike Luffy, Kid would as example defeat Doflamingo or Cracker without any help.
He only beat Urouge right after he fought snack. For all we know he beat a tired Urouge
 
I don’t think it’s that far fetched to have a rubbing in hand in your own territory guarded by another sweet commander

I mean what if you run into someone who can read them? Then you can send Snack to them
 
Urouge defeated Snack too, but complete got wrecked by Cracker, showing the gap between Cracker and Snakc lvl.

I think based on the power:
Cracker>Perospero>Snack.

Snack is a YC4lvl at best, can´t fight off YC3lvl characters.
I think Kid was stronger than Luffy until the Katakuri battle.

Kid had more skills and better arsenal of phyiscal skills.
I think unlike Luffy, Kid would as example defeat Doflamingo or Cracker without any help.
The gap between Cracker and Snack is way big
Even Perospero is way above Snack
Kid was also way above Snack

Rookie Kid has to be around Perospero/Jack
pre onigashima Kid is around Cracker /King /Marco or stronger
Awakened Kid is low top tier
Him losing offguard to a yonko doesn't change that. 1v1, he'd lose mid diff to Shanks.
Low top tier Luffy lost to Kaido low diff 1v1
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Info from MelodyTown?

:BigW:
 
It's fact

Punk Kid doesn't need help to beat Doffy the weakling
Punk vise Kid is unlimited g4...Doffy has zero chance or winning 1v1

There's a reason why Kid fought Benn while Luffu fought Katakuri, Law's fight was Doffy

Kid surpassed Benn or reached his level at onigashima
Luffy surpassed Katakuri truly when he got ryuo
Law surpassed Doffy at Wano
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Kaido > Egghead Luffy
Watch him write whatever
 
Snack is a YC4lvl at best, can´t fight off YC3lvl characters.
When you all people are gonna wake up and realize that it doesn't exist that as a level?

Commanders should be classified Based on Feats not their number.

Being the second strongest commander of X crew doesn't make you necessarily weaker than the first commander of Y crew.

Whitebeard had:

Ace, Izou, Vista, Thatch and Base Teach who are all arguably above Snack and Perospero.

Just because Marco and king are same level doesn't mean katakuri is up with them, they are actually a level above Feats wise and Queen the plague who got the portray and statement as a very strong commander above 1 billion bounty is not Smoothie level, is at very least Katakuri level or above, actually Oda made luffy say "I want to surpass him and his billion" with katakuri while classified Queen as a "More than a billion" fighter by Marco...

C'mon people wake up.

Van augur who is arguably below Shiryu, Kuzan, Lafitte (if he is sanji fight as I think), Burgess and Avalo pizarro and he will literally defeat Yasopp, the third strongest of Shanks.

It's not like Beckman and other are an "exception" to the rule, the Fandom just made up this shit of "yc1-2-3-4" levels because of yonko military force being comparable, forgetting big mom has an estimated amount of 100,000 men while Kaido 20,000.
Big mom can make up her with her military force even if her best commander katakuri is below queen.

Same shit with RHP, they have strong Commanders but their fleet is made up with below NW level fighters while I remember big mom gave mont d'or an army of around 10,000 men classified as heavy hitters with high bounties for the NW.

People should classify Commanders as "top commander, high commander, mid commander, low commander" without thinking that being the 4th strongest of big mom crew makes you automatically stronger than the 7th strongest of WB pirates crew.
 
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