Invincible Series Discussion

Kizaruber Eats

Kizaruber Eats

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Anyone else watching Invincible on Amazon, especially Season 3 atm?

I've not read the comics, so please put all comics spoilers in spoiler tags if you mention then, although I've seen and read up a LOT of spoilers from the comics, but I won't mention them without spoiler tags either.

I couldn't find a thread for it here anyway, so I thought to make one. Would love to have some people to discuss it with here.

It's by Robert Kirkman of The Walking Dead and Mr Aaron Paul/Jesse Pinkman guest starred in the latest episode and did a great job and was once again repeatedly suffering due to a certain someone else too lmao. Mike Ermenthraut is supposed to be playing a certain major upcoming character real soon but I won't say who without using spoiler tags ofc.

I strongly recommend the show anyway, the animation has been SUBLIME but also the writing and voice acting and it was way more brutal and ballsy than I expected. Even just the last episode had my jaw on the floor with the sheer unapologetic audacity and grim reality of it. You can tell it's by the same guy who did The Walking Dead ofc.

There's a lot of really good, powerful, complex storylines that have already happened and also about to happen and to come in future as well, which I already know from spoilers of the comics and it's generally a more mature, edgier, gruesome, brutal and thus "realistic/grounded" version of typical, superhero stories but without going OTT except maybe in the actual violence and gore too.

The show has been improving some storylines too and adding depth to some characters, giving them more screentime and thus roles, responsibility etc so I really appreciate that too.

It seemed like it would be extremely mid at first glance but after the big reveal/twist and the fallout from that and the show constantly bombarding you with crazy twists here and there, always throwing curveballs and setting up major plotlines gradually, with charactersr returning and playing new roles in a similar manner to what Oda does with One Piece, it makes things VERY interesting too.

I could keep going, but you get the idea anyway ofc, the show and comics explore so many different ideas, possibilities, avenues etc, it really makes it compelling.

It's also a PERFECT show for powerscalers, just saying.:madmonk::sadgrin:
 
Kizaruber Eats

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Kōri no kokyū said:
What genre is it? I might try watching
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Its a huge mix of genres, horror especially psychological and visceral/body/gore, action, mystery, romance, thriller, dark humour, drama, coming of age, political/war fiction, sci-fi etc.

It does all kinds of different storylines and tones BUT it takes itself very seriously when it wants to without going OTT and imo balances all the tones and genres really well.
 
Kōri no kokyū

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Kizaruber Eats said:
Its a huge mix of genres, horror especially psychological and visceral/body/gore, action, mystery, romance, thriller, dark humour, drama, coming of age, political/war fiction, sci-fi etc.

It does all kinds of different storylines and tones BUT it takes itself very seriously when it wants to without going OTT and imo balances all the tones and genres really well.
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How many seasons ?
 
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Kōri no kokyū said:
Damn that's GoT level long (good thing).
I'll watch it. Then take part in the discussion
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Nice one, thanks! I think the comics are 144 chapters, around 25 volumes or so?

Hope you like it anyway!

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Yoho said:
I loved the comics when I read it the show is definitely watered down compared to the comics it has its own little charm but they changed a lot

Amber is basically two different people
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Aye it does seem like when a lot of stuff gets adapted to movies or tv shows, a lot gets sacrificed for it, the Hobbit and Harry Potter films were notorious for this, although I've not seen any LOTR and Hobbit films nor read the books yet (Im too lazy to read books now for shame /s), so that's understandable too ofc.

Yeah even though I haven't read the comics, looking at Amber from the comics and it literally is 2 different people in every sense of the word except gender and name. They also avoided a certain major plotline with her this season and the show version of Amber is definitely one of the weakest and most annoying partaof the adaption by far. I'm so glad
her and Mark broke up and he gets with Eve instead for good.

I tend to see the adaptations as more of glorified trailers/samplers for the actual series. It's the same thing with anime too, the manga often is the far superior experience, especially for the writing itself, but also art. You will never get the full, true experience with adaptations but they can be great for determining whether it's worth reading and thus investing in and supporting a series too.

I've been looking at some stuff that got cut from the comics for the show and as per usual with any series that gets adapted, its so baffling and disappointing that they would cut stuff out like that, especially if its just a panel or something so it won't even bloat out the runtime or w/e. Like a certain memed quote of Allen after a recent incident with him and Omni Man ofc. "Very" frustrating they cut that out lol.

A former friend of mine who was really into MHA, was pointing out how season 3 of the anime cut out like 25 pages of content and he was showing all that was cut out to us and how some flashback stuff with Mirio and Tamaki was cut out, thus removing some context and added depth, backstory for them which really sucked.

I'm really enjoying the show but as you said, it's definitely a diluted or watered down experience, I have been very tempted to pick up the comics, as I do like the art style a lot too and I'd love to see the story through ASAP rather than waiting so many years in agony to see it completed, assuming it doesn't get cancelled at some point lol.
I'll probably give it a read through soon, since I am really enjoying some of the recent storylines and characterisation in it and also knowing whats to come from spoilers from comics readers and such, it does make want to check out the comics more too.

I love how morally grey it is too, its not simple black or white and characters both have face heel turns and redemption arcs, even ones you may not expect and charactees like Immortal, Rex, Monster Girl, Shrink Rae and Robot are actually so well written and voice acted too.
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Yoho said:
Not to mention the Atom Eve Spin Off which was pretty neat
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Oh yeah that was great! I was reluctant to check it out at first for some reason but then I did watch it and really liked it. I need to get the game and play it too, I'm so surprised the game revolves around her instead of Mark, which is a really pleasant surprise too.
 
Yoho

Yoho

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Kizaruber Eats said:
Nice one, thanks! I think the comics are 144 chapters, around 25 volumes or so?

Hope you like it anyway!

:BigW::holdw:



Aye it does seem like when a lot of stuff gets adapted to movies or tv shows, a lot gets sacrificed for it, the Hobbit and Harry Potter films were notorious for this, although I've not seen any LOTR and Hobbit films nor read the books yet (Im too lazy to read books now for shame /s), so that's understandable too ofc.

Yeah even though I haven't read the comics, looking at Amber from the comics and it literally is 2 different people in every sense of the word except gender and name. They also avoided a certain major plotline with her this season and the show version of Amber is definitely one of the weakest and most annoying partaof the adaption by far. I'm so glad
her and Mark broke up and he gets with Eve instead for good.

I tend to see the adaptations as more of glorified trailers/samplers for the actual series. It's the same thing with anime too, the manga often is the far superior experience, especially for the writing itself, but also art. You will never get the full, true experience with adaptations but they can be great for determining whether it's worth reading and thus investing in and supporting a series too.

I've been looking at some stuff that got cut from the comics for the show and as per usual with any series that gets adapted, its so baffling and disappointing that they would cut stuff out like that, especially if its just a panel or something so it won't even bloat out the runtime or w/e. Like a certain memed quote of Allen after a recent incident with him and Omni Man ofc. "Very" frustrating they cut that out lol.

A former friend of mine who was really into MHA, was pointing out how season 3 of the anime cut out like 25 pages of content and he was showing all that was cut out to us and how some flashback stuff with Mirio and Tamaki was cut out, thus removing some context and added depth, backstory for them which really sucked.

I'm really enjoying the show but as you said, it's definitely a diluted or watered down experience, I have been very tempted to pick up the comics, as I do like the art style a lot too and I'd love to see the story through ASAP rather than waiting so many years in agony to see it completed, assuming it doesn't get cancelled at some point lol.
I'll probably give it a read through soon, since I am really enjoying some of the recent storylines and characterisation in it and also knowing whats to come from spoilers from comics readers and such, it does make want to check out the comics more too.

I love how morally grey it is too, its not simple black or white and characters both have face heel turns and redemption arcs, even ones you may not expect and charactees like Immortal, Rex, Monster Girl, Shrink Rae and Robot are actually so well written and voice acted too.
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Oh yeah that was great! I was reluctant to check it out at first for some reason but then I did watch it and really liked it. I need to get the game and play it too, I'm so surprised the game revolves around her instead of Mark, which is a really pleasant surprise too.
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Fair warning around Vol 15 I believe the art style changes and gets kinda wonky but you should definitely give it a read also you should read a series called Saga one of my favorites
 
Kizaruber Eats

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RayanOO said:
The show is good but the animation isn’t that great
Especially season 3
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Aye the animation has been dipping a lot in Season 3 especially, I think they are just rushing it to reduce wait between seasons as so many people complained and Robert said he didn't want to give us such a long wait between seasons again.

I did like the animation in some scenes like Allen vs the Viltrumites and Omni Man wrecking the Flaxan homeworld. That latter scene went so FUCKING HARD! The music, style and everything!

I did see some complaints on the latest episode where Powerplex was like a static png at one point when reacting to his power boost for the first time and I did notice it was off and worse than usual too lately.

I might be a bit more forgiving too as I've seen much worse with Naruto and 7 Deadly Sins and such haha.
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Yoho said:
Fair warning around Vol 15 I believe the art style changes and gets kinda wonky but you should definitely give it a read also you should read a series called Saga one of my favorites
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Oh shit FR? I hadn't heard about that damn, I hate it when art styles change unless it actually gets "better". I've seen some panels and the characters did look a bit rougher and more rigid in earlier scenes, like
Omni Man vs the Guardianor Omni vs Mark
I think? Not in a bad way but just compared to how they looked in the show, it was jarring, like how different characters look in the beginning of manga compared to MUCH later on when the mangaka gets much better at drawing and develops their own style more.

If I do read it, I will let you guys know here anyway, thanks! It's very likely at this point that I will.

Saga? Is this the one I take it?:

https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/saga

I just saw a cover with a cute AF seal on it and I'm sold already lmao. I like space operas and Invincible can be classed as one too, especially later on apparently as others say.

The art style looks fantastic and it sounds interesting potentially. I'll see if I like it anyway.
 
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Kizaruber Eats said:
Aye the animation has been dipping a lot in Season 3 especially, I think they are just rushing it to reduce wait between seasons as so many people complained and Robert said he didn't want to give us such a long wait between seasons again.

I did like the animation in some scenes like Allen vs the Viltrumites and Omni Man wrecking the Flaxan homeworld. That latter scene went so FUCKING HARD! The music, style and everything!

I did see some complaints on the latest episode where Powerplex was like a static png at one point when reacting to his power boost for the first time and I did notice it was off and worse than usual too lately.

I might be a bit more forgiving too as I've seen much worse with Naruto and 7 Deadly Sins and such haha.
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Oh shit FR? I hadn't heard about that damn, I hate it when art styles change unless it actually gets "better". I've seen some panels and the characters did look a bit rougher and more rigid in earlier scenes, like
Omni Man vs the Guardianor Omni vs Mark
I think? Not in a bad way but just compared to how they looked in the show, it was jarring, like how different characters look in the beginning of manga compared to MUCH later on when the mangaka gets much better at drawing and develops their own style more.

If I do read it, I will let you guys know here anyway, thanks! It's very likely at this point that I will.

Saga? Is this the one I take it?:

https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/saga

I just saw a cover with a cute AF seal on it and I'm sold already lmao. I like space operas and Invincible can be classed as one too, especially later on apparently as others say.

The art style looks fantastic and it sounds interesting potentially. I'll see if I like it anyway.
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Yesss that's it
 
Zoinks52

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I read the comics a while ago around 2020 I think. I liked them. They were pretty good, not an all time favourite for me, but they were very good.

On a tangent, I'm kinda peeved at what Monster Girl did to Robot when they were stranded, even if it is Robot we're talking about. I've ended up disliking her ever since.

I'm also a little mystified by Omni-Man's odd later costume choice of not wearing boots.

Didn't check out the show because I have an innate distrust of adaptations. Plus the Amber changes and introducing Battle Beast too early mildly turned me off. Like not to a major extent or anything, but somewhat.

I'm definitely gonna check out Thragg's scenes when he's eventually introduced though, he and Battle Beast are awesome.
 
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Zoinks52 said:
I read the comics a while ago around 2020 I think. I liked them. They were pretty good, not an all time favourite for me, but they were very good.

On a tangent, I'm kinda peeved at what Monster Girl did to Robot when they were stranded, even if it is Robot we're talking about. I've ended up disliking her ever since.

I'm also a little mystified by Omni-Man's odd later costume choice of not wearing boots.

Didn't check out the show because I have an innate distrust of adaptations. Plus the Amber changes and introducing Battle Beast too early mildly turned me off. Like not to a major extent or anything, but somewhat.

I'm definitely gonna check out Thragg's scenes when he's eventually introduced though, he and Battle Beast are awesome.
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Ah nice one! They do look pretty good from the bits I keep seeing here and there, some really interesting storylines yet to come and I've hard how some characters REALLY change in perception to the readers and do some very extreme, unexpected things including Robot and Monster Girl as you alluded to.
I'm not sure what she did to Robot though, I've heard about some of the things Robot does, something about how he's using a cloned version of Rex's body becomes a much more controversial topic with the real Rex dead now, but this Monster Girl and Robot storyline is MUCH later on right? After Robot's big takeover of Earth and killing certain people off at least too?
I really need to read the comics or at least some plot summarises to stay in the know better too...

Oh he doesn't wear boots later? That sounds weird....I had his death during a particular fight with a certain important someone ofc spoiled for me recently and I'm not surprised about it, but it's still somewhat saddening too.

Yeah I really don't like the Amber changes, the new Amber was AWFUL early on, she's not so bad now, they've given her a happier storyline but holy hell, it was some of the most insufferable Mary Sue writing or so, self insertion.

Oh does Battle Beast appear later in the comics instead? It does feel odd he appeared so soon in the show like that, especially given how insanely powerful he actually he is too ofc.
There's a spinoff comic with Battle Beast now too I believe right?

The Invinicible War episode was pretty cool and it ending with the arrival of Conquest was great though. I have mixed feelings about Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan) as Conquest but I do like it too, I was just so hyped for it being Johnathan Banks (Mike from Breaking Bad) and I know John is capable of delivering that kind of energy, authority and such but so is JDM too easily ofc. I do really like his voice for Conquest too.

At least one reviewer has called the finale absolutely amazing so far from early access viewings to it, so that sounds promising too.

Sadly, thanks to the Amber changes too, we never see that extremely badass and powerful panel of Mark dealing with Amber's abusive boyfriend too, which is disappointing but it is what it is.
 
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Kizaruber Eats said:
Ah nice one! They do look pretty good from the bits I keep seeing here and there, some really interesting storylines yet to come and I've hard how some characters REALLY change in perception to the readers and do some very extreme, unexpected things including Robot and Monster Girl as you alluded to.
I'm not sure what she did to Robot though, I've heard about some of the things Robot does, something about how he's using a cloned version of Rex's body becomes a much more controversial topic with the real Rex dead now, but this Monster Girl and Robot storyline is MUCH later on right? After Robot's big takeover of Earth and killing certain people off at least too?
I really need to read the comics or at least some plot summarises to stay in the know better too...

Oh he doesn't wear boots later? That sounds weird....I had his death during a particular fight with a certain important someone ofc spoiled for me recently and I'm not surprised about it, but it's still somewhat saddening too.

Yeah I really don't like the Amber changes, the new Amber was AWFUL early on, she's not so bad now, they've given her a happier storyline but holy hell, it was some of the most insufferable Mary Sue writing or so, self insertion.

Oh does Battle Beast appear later in the comics instead? It does feel odd he appeared so soon in the show like that, especially given how insanely powerful he actually he is too ofc.
There's a spinoff comic with Battle Beast now too I believe right?

The Invinicible War episode was pretty cool and it ending with the arrival of Conquest was great though. I have mixed feelings about Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan) as Conquest but I do like it too, I was just so hyped for it being Johnathan Banks (Mike from Breaking Bad) and I know John is capable of delivering that kind of energy, authority and such but so is JDM too easily ofc. I do really like his voice for Conquest too.

At least one reviewer has called the finale absolutely amazing so far from early access viewings to it, so that sounds promising too.

Sadly, thanks to the Amber changes too, we never see that extremely badass and powerful panel of Mark dealing with Amber's abusive boyfriend too, which is disappointing but it is what it is.
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Yup!

Well as to MG, she's a...disloyal girlfriend/ally, and it kinda cones out of nowhere tbh. IMO she's ome of the reasons Robot becomes what he is towards the end. Robot himself is a control freak to put it mildly.

No, the MG/Rob story happens way before all that. They have a separate storyline basically. IIRC she does help fight him later.

Yeah the boot thing is just weird lmao. Man's basically strutting about baring his chicken legs to everyone else. I really don't know why they did that.

Comics Amber was a little bland but she was a nice normal girl and I liked her yeah. Nu-Amber I think is just a product of Hollywood and Western Media's very "Tumblr" approach that they've adopted recently - lots of race/genderswapping, heavy dose of sanctimoniousness, terrible writing etc. It's the sort of thing that's the reason we've got a whole culture war raging on the internets now.

I'm not overfond of AI art or media but a large part of me wants that stuff to get better so I can finally just make adaptations at home instead of putting up with that nonsense lol. I'd finally be able to have a good Percy Jackson animated series.

Yes, BB appears wayyy later, around the time Thragg shows up. His powerscaling is actually weird - he's initially on Nolan/Allen's level and just gets ragdolled by Thragg, but later he's the only one except maybe Prime Mark who can equal him in power. Thragg even lampshades this.

I didn't know about the spinoff. I do recall sonething about him having a vengeful daughter in the ending though.

Can't comment on Conquest's voice sadly, but yeah, he's a beast. Him and Anissa(particularly foul character) are two people who utterly traumatized Mark.

Is there any chance we'll see a certain large red dinosaur? I'm looking forward to that character. Interesting fellow.
 
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