Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

[Buusatan94]

The magician is back

I don't know why people were trolling but making this ridiculous claim that he was dead.

 

[Rmstorm]

Yeah seems like they were using Ryou, which is CoA part of Breath of all things as BOAT is both CoA and CoO.
Hyogoro's explanation makes a lot of sense

Interesting Zoro unlocked advanced CoA all the way back in Alabasta though learned to truly control it with Mihawk training.
While Luffy is only learning it right now.

Well, yes because Zoro was taught that at the dojo by Koshiro, as a child. This actually shows the difference in haki talent between Zoro and Luffy.
Luffy went a level higher than that from nothing, while Zoro who learned these concepts as a childs does not have internal destruction haki, the highest level of Coa

Luffy is trully talented in haki like Rayleigh said.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Dude, you can't explain everything by Willpower=strength, other characters have strong willpower too, the antagonists have strong Willpower but doesn't change anything. Luffy has strong Willpower but he couldn't damage Kaido si by that logic Kinemon Willpower>Luffy's Willpower. People should just accept the truth that Oda sucks, he destroyed one piece after the time skip, one piece isn't the one piece that we knew before and this is the new reality.

While I do agree One Piece is far less consistent post TS, but I gotta agree with @Celestial D. Dragon will power resulting in power is a theme well established in One Piece. Yes many character have strong wills but its also the certain moments that triggers their force of will such as Zoro showing his force of will in Thriller Bark, or Luffy against Katakuri but there are moments such as Zoro passing out or Luffy getting knocked out by Killer where same will power doesn't come into fruition.

In that situation every scabbards used all the pent up frustration, the anger, their will power towards their assault on Kaido and they managed to make him bleed.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Zoros dog purple for poison (queen)
Sanji dog red for fire (king )
Luffy dog blue dragon zoan color ( Kaido )

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

And then it turns out, obviously, that Kaido has long awakened his devil fruit and so he easely heals from these injuries.

anything that helps yall sleep well at night at this point

 

[PrinceKun]

Hawkins is with Law
But Why?

He has to follow the strongest

 

[Ice devil slayer]

The Eos Zoro vs Kaido thread needs to get locked

 

[Zara]

Very pleased to see hawkins is back

his performance against luffy/zoro/law was very impressive and his card abilities will be useful af in this situation

Oda dis hawkins dirty by having law + drake gangbang him off panel smh so hopefully oda redeems him

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Dude, you can't explain everything by Willpower=strength, other characters have strong willpower too, the antagonists have strong Willpower but doesn't change anything. Luffy has strong Willpower but he couldn't damage Kaido si by that logic Kinemon Willpower>Luffy's Willpower. People should just accept the truth that Oda sucks, he destroyed one piece after the time skip, one piece isn't the one piece that we knew before and this is the new reality.

Luffy didn't put his heart and soul into any of the attacks he launched on Kaido. We're talking about a series where one of the characters had a .02 percent survivability rate, and recovered in less than 24 hours because of his Willpower. I can provide dozens of more examples of impossible shit being pulled off because of willpower since the series began. The scabbards gave it everything they had and managed to just barely pierce Kaido's skin. It's not like they skewered him straight through from one side to the other.

 

[SDfear]

King is not a swordsman
Change my mind

 

[KINGKONGGUN15]

im happy

 

[MonsterZoro]

King is not a swordsman
Change my mind

He’s just holding the sword for Kaido

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy didn't put his heart and soul into any of the attacks he launched on Kaido. We're talking about a series where one of the characters had a .02 percent survivability rate, and recovered in less than 24 hours because of his Willpower. I can provide dozens of more examples of impossible shit being pulled off because of willpower since the series began. The scabbards gave it everything they had and managed to just barely pierce Kaido's skin. It's not like they skewered him straight through from one side to the other.

luffy shouldnt have been one shot first time either
but thats another discussion

 

[Hades]

Zoros dog purple for poison (queen)
Sanji dog red for fire (king )
Luffy dog blue dragon zoan color ( Kaido )

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Well, yes because Zoro was taught that at the dojo by Koshiro. This actaully shows the difference in haki talent between Zoro and Luffy.
Luffy wenta level higher than that from nothing, while Zoro who learnt thse concepts as a childs doe snot have internal destruction haki, the highest level of Coa

What? Zoro was never explicitly taught that by Koshiro, he had only heart instructions that he never followed through until Alabasta where just by memorizing the instructions he unlocked advanced Haki in a day while it took Luffy like a week with instructor and flash backs to unlock it. While Luffy was trained by one of the greatest Haki masters of all time Garp as a kid but he learned fuck all.

Also what do you mean higher level? Do you realize how strong Zoro's CoA is? Enma cant be tamed because its used to Oden's Godly CoA, scabbards who have CoA strong enough to hurt Kaido think they will turn into husk if they try to tame Enma, but Zoro's Haki was sufficient enough and then he made his Haki even stronger in a few days.

Lol at Luffy being more talented than Zoro when he needs DF cheat to be only as strong as Zoro yet have shit tier offense that can't even hurt Kaido while fodders like Kinnemon can.

 

[Zowo]

King is not a swordsman
Change my mind

He is confirmed in the magazine
using his sword against raizo
wanted to use his sword against scabbards but got shoot by izo

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Luffy didn't put his heart and soul into any of the attacks he launched on Kaido. We're talking about a series where one of the characters had a .02 percent survivability rate, and recovered in less than 24 hours because of his Willpower. I can provide dozens of more examples of impossible shit being pulled off because of willpower since the series began. The scabbards gave it everything they had and managed to just barely pierce Kaido's skin. It's not like they skewered him straight through from one side to the other.

Oooo I disagree with that for sure, because reality is Zoro is a far more competent Haki user and swordsmen in general are superior to brawlers so Luffy failed where swordsman who shat looking at Zoro flex succeeded.

 

[Bil02]

They were using Barrier Haki, aka the breath of all things that Hyougoro explained. They did the samething Zoro did to Mr1.

As of now,nothing of that is confirmed and seems more like headcannon of your part.
It can be anything currently.

 

[Zara]

The real winner this chapter is mihawk fans if we being honest

 

[Luffy is the mc]

The real hype next chapter will be Luffy vs Big Mom and Yamato vs Ulti and Who's Who

We know the scabbards are meant to lose but I'm kind of surprised they will be the ones to weaken kaido before his 1v1 against Luffy.

Kinemon went from fodder feats to YC1+ tier feat since he came back to Wano. He looks completely different, he's now a complete badass, proud and very capable. I like that change.

Regarding Luffy vs Big mom, we might see him use adv CoA for the first time in a fight.i can't wait to see how effective it is