Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1146 Spoilers Discussion
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I feel pretty confused on Gunko right now tbh. She has a DF but the Gorosei didn´t. I assumed previously that the Gorosei didnt eat devil fruits because the ancient kingdom made the devil fruits, and the Gorosei looked down on eating it because of that, but she does.
Is it because Gunko isn´t a celestial dragon and the Kidds friend meme, or like a clone or whatever? We know Shamrock fed his sword a fruit, but maybe not himself?
and if Gunko is getting powers like regen from Imu or whatever, why eat a fruit?
Is it because Gunko isn´t a celestial dragon and the Kidds friend meme, or like a clone or whatever? We know Shamrock fed his sword a fruit, but maybe not himself?
and if Gunko is getting powers like regen from Imu or whatever, why eat a fruit?
The comparison is not about how it works compare to logia users .
The comparison is in terms of how people act when they know they can't get damage .
Logia users know they could not get hurt they don't bother doing anything , elders and HK know they don't get hurt they don't bother doing anything .
No one would say they work the same cause logia user have to worry about there weakness and haki when Elders and HK don't even have care about haki .
Also showing off you have regen is plus , in egghead luffy get so piss he could not hurt them that he had no choice but to run .
The comparison is in terms of how people act when they know they can't get damage .
Logia users know they could not get hurt they don't bother doing anything , elders and HK know they don't get hurt they don't bother doing anything .
No one would say they work the same cause logia user have to worry about there weakness and haki when Elders and HK don't even have care about haki .
Also showing off you have regen is plus , in egghead luffy get so piss he could not hurt them that he had no choice but to run .
I mean yeah the Admirals are billions of times more durable than these pathetically weak Celestial Dragons. In a series of characters like Doflamingo who can get shot in the face by a bazooka and not even be scratched or interrupted from his conversation, the pathetically weak Celestial Dragons seem to only have durability relative to irl humans. If they didn’t have hax then these characters could be killed by standard gunfire lmfao.
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
Ok......
These HK are pretty much the copy cat of Gorosei who are regeneration hax merchant
And it's kinda weird that all of the Gorosei feats are shown first an arc before........... while HK, the lower rank are shown later, and half of the members are yet to be introduced too.
As of now we could make a point how HK in general are below Gorosei even though both parties share a broken regeneration hax.
It is their power and other elements that makes the gap, all Gorosei are awakened mythical gigantic beast with powerful DC and all CoC users, while HK have some basic Paramecia fruit(although broken in some way) and only Shamrock may have CoC.....
I also think their regeneration isn't as broken as the Gorosei and have some limitations compared to Gorosei....but we'll see
These HK are pretty much the copy cat of Gorosei who are regeneration hax merchant
And it's kinda weird that all of the Gorosei feats are shown first an arc before........... while HK, the lower rank are shown later, and half of the members are yet to be introduced too.
As of now we could make a point how HK in general are below Gorosei even though both parties share a broken regeneration hax.
It is their power and other elements that makes the gap, all Gorosei are awakened mythical gigantic beast with powerful DC and all CoC users, while HK have some basic Paramecia fruit(although broken in some way) and only Shamrock may have CoC.....
I also think their regeneration isn't as broken as the Gorosei and have some limitations compared to Gorosei....but we'll see
If Oda thinks that some fodder teachers, the weaker Strawhats and Saul are suitable hype tools for these HKs then I'm very concerned about their level of strength
The only remotely notable hype tool victim here is Jinbe so we'll see how he fares against Gunko
If they're just more weak ass regen merchants imma be very disappointed
The only remotely notable hype tool victim here is Jinbe so we'll see how he fares against Gunko
If they're just more weak ass regen merchants imma be very disappointed
@EmperorKinyagi
Actually Ven might not be 100% loyal to Gunko.
If it turns out that she is underage or she ends up being Kid's dead childhood friend, it seems like he will end up dropping her.
Actually Ven might not be 100% loyal to Gunko.
If it turns out that she is underage or she ends up being Kid's dead childhood friend, it seems like he will end up dropping her.
I mean yeah the Admirals are billions of times more durable than these pathetically weak Celestial Dragons. In a series of characters like Doflamingo who can get shot in the face by a bazooka and not even be scratched or interrupted from his conversation, the pathetically weak Celestial Dragons seem to only have durability relative to irl humans. If they didn’t have hax then these characters could be killed by standard gunfire lmfao.
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
According to powerscaling experts here, Kizaru’s “true” durability amounts to being able to get cut up by Sentomaru’s axe (haki neutralized)
1. Kizaru was not cut here. He split himself.
2. Even if he was to be cut, it would be cutting LIGHT not his real body, schizo. Totally different from Gorosei and holy jobbers who get their REAL body destroyed.
I mean yeah the Admirals are billions of times more durable than these pathetically weak Celestial Dragons. In a series of characters like Doflamingo who can get shot in the face by a bazooka and not even be scratched or interrupted from his conversation, the pathetically weak Celestial Dragons seem to only have durability relative to irl humans. If they didn’t have hax then these characters could be killed by standard gunfire lmfao.
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
The Gorosei and the Holy Knights are definitional hax/fruit merchants who also have strong Haki, but they are physical weaklings reliant on demonic power to not get killed by the likes of Mjosgard.
Just imagine if Oda introduced a Celestial Dragon fighter so weak that they didn’t possess Imu hax and devil fruit power, could we even say that such an absolute weakling is worthy of being compared to the Holy Knights?
If Zoro or Law don't use haki a bullet to head would kill them .
A fodder using a sword could still cut luffy or shanks .
We will for certain get some HK than more durable but how durable some one is in OP scale funny as hell.
@Elder Lee Hung
When it comes to Sommers and Saul.
While it is cool that Sommers defeated Saul, I personally don't find it hype at all, seeing how we already saw Saul get defeated in the past.
And the Egghead arc, really ruined my views on most of the Vice Admirals.
I would rather see Sommers get a hype moment against Gaban or against Dorry and Brogy.
When it comes to Sommers and Saul.
While it is cool that Sommers defeated Saul, I personally don't find it hype at all, seeing how we already saw Saul get defeated in the past.
And the Egghead arc, really ruined my views on most of the Vice Admirals.
I would rather see Sommers get a hype moment against Gaban or against Dorry and Brogy.
I think Oda said somewhere that the manga gets more popular when they are fighting human enemies than fighting monsters but I could be wrong on that. So switching from ugly monsters to more humanoid enemies makes a lot of sense you can see more fans already dig them more than Gorosei
Good to know I live rent-free inside your head 
yall the ones talking about her age when I never even cared about it, only her role and strength in story. Great projection tho
@EmperorKinyagi
Actually Ven might not be 100% loyal to Gunko.
If it turns out that she is underage or she ends up being Kid's dead childhood friend, it seems like he will end up dropping her.
Actually Ven might not be 100% loyal to Gunko.
If it turns out that she is underage or she ends up being Kid's dead childhood friend, it seems like he will end up dropping her.
yall the ones talking about her age when I never even cared about it, only her role and strength in story. Great projection tho
Imagine still defending Saint Shanks when we now know Shamrock has Gorosei regeneration and an awakened mythical in his sword. Lol
The era of people who can realistically pretend that Saint Shanks drinking and partying while his baby sitters fight all of his battles for him would somehow make Saint Shanks stronger than Shamrock, who Garling didn’t abandon, who received military training from the organization that ruled the world for 800 years, whom the WG entrusted to subjugate Elbaf itself, is dead and gone lmfao.
I mean just imagine thinking this pampered fairy bitch could possibly be stronger than Shamrock. When Garling flushed Saint Shanks down the toilet at birth and Saint Shanks was raised by single digit IQ lowborn criminal trash lmfao. Don’t even. Saint Shanks will never be half as strong as Shamrock.
The era of people who can realistically pretend that Saint Shanks drinking and partying while his baby sitters fight all of his battles for him would somehow make Saint Shanks stronger than Shamrock, who Garling didn’t abandon, who received military training from the organization that ruled the world for 800 years, whom the WG entrusted to subjugate Elbaf itself, is dead and gone lmfao.
I mean just imagine thinking this pampered fairy bitch could possibly be stronger than Shamrock. When Garling flushed Saint Shanks down the toilet at birth and Saint Shanks was raised by single digit IQ lowborn criminal trash lmfao. Don’t even. Saint Shanks will never be half as strong as Shamrock.
sigh...don't like this regen thing tbh but then again in another way would at least kill off any notion that the Gorosei > Holy Knights only due to regen.
Maybe this whole regen ting is tied to having the mark of the beast kinda like Teleportation.
Also wanted the weaker SHs to at least put a fight but Oda didn't even consider the possibility
Soul Kingu where u at fam
Not really gonna comment on Jinbe's potential L
Jinbe seems pretty useful as an adviser on the crew with his insight at times but that isn't really unique to him. This might be bit pre-mature in all fairness considering he just joined but currently it feels like Oda just wanted to an ex-Shichibukai to the crew to hype them up rather than having specific plan for him like the others so Oda's gotta do a bit more to make him stand out in his own way.
Maybe this whole regen ting is tied to having the mark of the beast kinda like Teleportation.
Also wanted the weaker SHs to at least put a fight but Oda didn't even consider the possibility
Soul Kingu where u at fam
Not really gonna comment on Jinbe's potential L
Jinbe seems pretty useful as an adviser on the crew with his insight at times but that isn't really unique to him. This might be bit pre-mature in all fairness considering he just joined but currently it feels like Oda just wanted to an ex-Shichibukai to the crew to hype them up rather than having specific plan for him like the others so Oda's gotta do a bit more to make him stand out in his own way.
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This panel always looked like Kizaru doing the fs prediction dodge like katakuri.- Status