Hime started things off here (
#242) notice she did not vote me off.
i feel like anyone who puts "town" in front of the word role or whatever the name of their role is, always ends up being scum lol...
subconscious thing im pretty sure
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#245 ratchet agreed with her but again with no vote ...I feel like ratchet is being legit here and no foul play involved.
Agreed on this as it's what I was alluding to in his responses lol. Might be a hit...
FF 7 posts after Hime's original 242 post, Flower started the voting process with literally two words
#249
then the her direct immediate post after that was ....
LET‘S DO THE TIMEWARP AGAIN!!
Almost if I was outted scum and there is no need to waste any time on me ... poor & funny to say the least.
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#255 by flower, again, she showing what pro-town feats looks like:
It‘s okay Stary.
PARTY TIME!!!
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#257 by LC, he says he caught that thing too and provide a 4 liner post on why that ticked him as overcompensation, imo he is what a legit townie would say, providing the thought process before hand, I think LC is legit here and not jumping anything.
I didnt notice this at first but now that you mention it, he did ask if i was town ,
and i thought realistically what other response is anyone going to give but yes.
and then 4 other post of his are about the same , "town signalling",
if its not some type of restriction chrollo bro might be overcompensating.
@Ali v2
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#260 made by Hayumi ... replying to LC and mentioning some part of his argument is NAI while they can agree on the "town role" part, again, no vote here ... just analyzing and dissecting through something that struck as odd, Hayumi gets town points from me:
I think your first point is just NAI, people ask if eachother’s town every game. But yes I think they could be overcompensation by specifically feeling the need to add that town role in there
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#267 where I replied to what Hime and Flower said, I gave codos to Hime for active hunting and I confronted Flower for her in-game bullying, which she continued in post
#268 and
#269 #270 #272 You would think a seasoned game player would at least give you the courtesy of a proper answer, but no, not flower: (I explain something in this regard at the end, please be patient)
This is so over dramatic rofl.
Okay Imma call it a night. My brain is cooked.
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#290 by Alexis, just keep this post in mind.
Strongly Town-reading Flower.
after that the thread died for a while there were literally nothing going on on my wagon and lots of fluff in between that is until we reached post
#306 made by Hime again, this time she justifies her vote on me by quoting others (Ratchet, Flower, LC) and she delivered a more than sussy post saying this:
will point out that i find it kinda weird that so many ppl immediately agreed with my thoughts on Ali tho
im so used to having to point out several posts of a player's before ppl will agree that they r scummy
either i hella cooked with my thought process or there r opportunistic scum here
Anywyas im fine with this direction for now
Vote Lynch Ali
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#307 made by Hime again, where she asks me a question that I thought was obvious meaning-wise" enough and told her not to twist my words here
#309 she later on continued her pursuit in post
#954 for which I replied in post
#984 to finally conclude on post
#990 .... here are all the quotes in order:
claiming is the same as what u did?
Nice twisting of words there
its ur quote tf
"you even went a further step on that specific game full claiming D0, so how is this any different?"
your quote of me was cut short hime, I was referring to her Leaning people scum or town based on vibes the last game, I said based on a vibe I don't think this is flower's town gameplay (which at the time it was true regarding posting and activity) .... I said (you even went a further step on that specific game full claiming D0, so how is this any different?) to hint at town's flower gameplay is so active sometimes she even claims early which is something I'm not seeing here (not the claiming bit, I sincerely did not wish her to claim, not at that point at least) but regarding the inactivity part (relative "active hunting" inactivity compared to other games early on)
Why would you cut the quote short? I think the meaning was pretty obvious.
ur quote was abt y she was scum reading u for saying u r town and fluffing around when she does that as town and even goes ahead and claims
then u asked how the claiming thing was diff between her in that game and u in this one
thats what i replied to
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#335 by charlie, he voted me off here, TBF he was following the entire situation from the start, liking some of the above quoted messages in thread and he even asked Michelle what she thinks about the "Ali" situation, so It might seem as out of the blue vote, but I think otherwise, be it he is a good or a bad noodle.
There's no hammer anyway so i'll just throw a vote before VC o:
Vote Lynch Ali
I'm open to alternatives tho
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#337 .... Shamful.
This was Majority Lynch. Nice cherry picking.
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#339 .... her first time replying with a decent post, for which I responded to here
#342 admitting my mistake, for which she had a deja vu to her passive aggressiveness here
#343
This game is Plurality and piling on votes won’t end the day.
Well maybe I got that part wrong .. but you are still not giving town-flower vibes this game.
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#344 ..... interesting to say the least.
Doesn’t feel like any of them is bussing Ali. Maybe Hayumi might, but he looks fine overall independently from that, so an Ali scum flip should be clearing for them.
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#380 by charlie .... again, I can't quite decide whether he is good or bad, GTH good ig.
not really o: i mean i don't feel strongly about anyone rn
RN i'm cool with Ali vote. Firstly because of "slip" hime pointed out. His (?) response later on didn't change much either.
gth towns rn would be you, ratchet, hime
Other talked about people:
Relo - no strong feelings either way, missed the scummy part i think
Alexis - tbh, i can't tell wtf he is in any game
Also some vibes:
LANJI :)
Michelle :/
Yoho :/
Hayumi :)
Mango :)
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#391 by Michelle, first time confronting Flower and initiating a somewhat interesting reaction between the two. here's the full showdown ...
#394 ,
#395 ,
#407 ,
#447 ,
#451 ,
#452 ,
#454 ,
#455 ,
#456 ,
#457 ,
#458 ,
#459 ,
I am not interested in associative reads without any flip.
The shade is noted and you receive - 1
And you know that’s not how it works. If you think people are scum you have to check for equity. If you don’t then you have no interest in clearing people and that’s a scum trait.
Town:
Alexis, Hime, Cryo, Hayumi, Lanji, Pero, Ratchet, Mango
Scummy:
Michelle, Reloaded (more Jester than scum probably)
Scum:
Ali
I am not making a meta read with that. Logically a wolf is self aware and thinks before making a move and that's what you did imo.
Again, not scummy for me.
Pquerty is not LHF.
You seems to knock they're town.
Thanks for mafia 101.
Eh.
I don't need self meta, you know?
When you’re blatantly framing my Town play as scummy self meta is what you gonna get.
You look self aware about your meta.
Can you describe it?
I am not framing. I see you doing scummy things, I am taking about it
Michelle, where‘s your interest in solving? All you do is shade obvious Towns.
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#401 by Hayumi, This pro-townish behavior of analyzing posts and reactions further making be believe Hayumi is town.
Ali’s response to Flower was pretty dramatic but oddly enough I kind of feel less inclined to vote him now despite the blatant OMGUS, at least he has reasoning ready to give
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#403 by hayumi again, he catches on what hime did previously and gives a one liner ... again codos for hayumi.
I liked the point you made, that’s it lol.
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#410 made by Pero, calling things out .... points for pero -> town lean. for which Flower replied in post
#411 ... by her response it is evident she already decided my fate, I'm a verified scum just because I opposed her with a single vote ... speaks volumes. funny enough pero confronts her in post
#412 in which she unknowingly argued with him
#413 the same point I was arguing her for XD She doesn't like to hear it from others so it appears. then pero says this
#414 for which flower replies by saying this
#417 ... So people who played with flower can call her weak out and she would properly answer them, people who are new get's called "outted scum"
if michelle is only scummy and ali is scum then why are you voting michelle
Why can’t I vote people to put pressure on them?
apparently you got a scum right there
And that’s stopping me from getting reactions out of multiple people in a 48h day phase because…?
Why are you acting like you never played with me lol.
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#464 by charlie, explaining his slip thing on me.
Not slip, "Slip". I meant this "Town role" thing. I read hime's post and realised i do the same shet as mafia o: trying to oversell things i mean
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#468 made by York, where she calls flower for a similar play she made on her in another game, basically telling her that just because ali said town role doesn't auto make him scum .... flower replies to her on post
#469 saying it's not the only reason why she voted me (which is a blatant lie, thankfully the forum has this thing called post # and search feature and you can scroll back and see that neither before or after her vote on me, has Flower ever provided any reasons why I'm scum, she doubled sown on me after I presented my argument of her not being her usual town, and only changed her vote, when another player, Michelle, called her out for possible scum play. which again she got called for doing so by pero ...
I remember once Flower was out for my blood for claiming "Town Protector" because I said town before my role and I said protector instead of doctor or bodyguard. After flipping exactly what I said I was I was quite vindictive in dead chat that game, and I think for like 3 games after that I would put Town in front of my claims.
Eh, that reasoning isn’t really the main reason why Ali is scummy lol. It‘s just one tell of multiple that leads to a scum read.
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#470 here flower says "Kiku" whoever that is, is not aligned with me, again jujding I'm 100% scum, now even threading an imaginary network based on that baseless accusation (oh wait it's not baseless, only scum call out Flower, er correction, only NEW to the game scum call flower out)
Kiku probably not aligned with Ali from this. Looks more like an attempt to clarify things instead of a soft defense.
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#494 by cryo, he is waiting for my lynch instead of actively trying to search other avenues?
I thought this was a turbo with 48 minute days and 24 minute nights :(
I’ve been waiting for the Ali flip for hours
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#499 lol this actually made me laugh, here Yoho asks a question that many of us have probably asked ourselves at one point, the fun part when flower responds to him in post
#500
Idk how people can have solid reads based on day 1 activity
In Arcane I had flawless reads by 1/4th of Day 1 lol.
I can go on ... but I'm honestly tired.
My Game-related conc (based on the quotes above)
Town lean (for now) -> LC, Ratchet, Hayumi, Michelle, Pero,
Scum lean -> Hime,
50/50 -> Charlie, Flower, Cryo.
As for the entire Flower situation I can only say it's really a shame, she has repeatedly be littled my posts, refused to properly answer my posts, set me to be lynched as a Final verdict without even giving it a second thought, and overall showed poor attitude and behaviour as a seasoned player.
When I was writing this post, several lines came to my mind on how she made me feel this entire game, but out of respect for Her (from the past) and for other players and the host, I will refrain to only one paragraph.
Flower, with all due respect, acting as the ALL-KNOWING queen of mafia who's every move should not be questioned or argued with is a bad experience for new players, it's ok to have ego but that stops when your ego starts hurting people who joined to have fun, Putting me on ignore? giving trivial answers to my posts? be littling my efforts? If this is who you choose to be, fine, but expect people to retaliate. in post
#458 you told Michelle to stop shading "obvious town" refering to yourself I bet, Who decided that? you meta history? I don't give two shits about meta, either you play like the rest of us and respond with proper posts explaining what why and who or you can continue doing what you do and I will keep calling you out for it, You are better than this, sincerely.
Will be going to bed soon, much love.