Versus Battle Giorno with GER vs the entirety of the One Piece top tiers

Who wins?


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#21
I believe the mere act of attempting to touch him puts one in a death loop
It's not, otherwise it would've been unnecessary for Giorno to actually kill Diabolo with a muda muda barrage. It seems that GER has to actively kill someone before triggering the effect of infinite death loop. Otherwise, as I mentioned, Pucci would've been cancelled and sent into a death loop, something that didn't happen.

He did, It didnt affect him whatesoever. Pucci had no will to act against him so it didnt work on him, but the universe tried to act on him and it did nothing to him.
So you are basically implying that if you don't target Giorno, GER won't activate. So there's nothing stopping Enel (for example) from nuking the city where Giorno is and killing him in the cross fire.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#23
It's not, otherwise it would've been unnecessary for Giorno to actually kill Diabolo with a muda muda barrage. It seems that GER has to actively kill someone before triggering the effect of infinite death loop. Otherwise, as I mentioned, Pucci would've been cancelled and sent into a death loop, something that didn't happen.


So you are basically implying that if you don't target Giorno, GER won't activate. So there's nothing stopping Enel (for example) from nuking the city where Giorno is and killing him in the cross fire.
That is an indirect act against him and will be canceled. The stand will protect him.
 
#28
That is an indirect act against him and will be canceled. The stand will protect him.
Why would it be? The character could just choose to blow up the place. It's Giorno's fault for being there. "My main target is destroying this, if Giorno is on the cross fire, that ain't my problem". As simple as that.
Overall and to be fair, GER has many undisclosed and specific caveats that we didn't get to see fully because it was used literally once and the author decided to not say anything regarding it.


Also, Yogiri solos GER
 
#29
Why would it be? The character could just choose to blow up the place. It's Giorno's fault for being there. "My main target is destroying this, if Giorno is on the cross fire, that ain't my problem". As simple as that.
Overall and to be fair, GER has many undisclosed and specific caveats that we didn't get to see fully because it was used literally once and the author decided to not say anything regarding it.


Also, Yogiri solos GER
Your intention doesn't matter
If it's gonna affect him then it will get nullified
I could fart and if it smells bad enough to accidentally kill Giorno his stand is gonna activate.
 
#30
Your intention doesn't matter
If it's gonna affect him then it will get nullified
I could fart and if it smells bad enough to accidentally kill Giorno his stand is gonna activate.
Then why didn't Pucci's Uni Reset trigger RTZ? Pucci had no intention to affect Giorno directly. So it's either:
A. GER lacked the range to affect Pucci.
B. Pucci not targeting Giorno made GER not use RTZ.

Pick your poison.
 
#34
I don't remember any panel showing Giorno
Might be that GER only stopped it from affecting Giorno and thought that was enough.
Why would that be the case? RTZ reverses the action to zero, it doesn't prevent the action from affection Giorno.

Let's say that you are alongside Giorno and I throw a building at you both. GER should return my action of picking up and throwing the building to 0 and thus, leaving both of you unscathed. It reverses the action to 0 to nullify the effect, it doesn't just nullify the effect directly and call it a day.
 
#36
Why would that be the case? RTZ reverses the action to zero, it doesn't prevent the action from affection Giorno.

Let's say that you are alongside Giorno and I throw a building at you both. GER should return my action of picking up and throwing the building to 0 and thus, leaving both of you unscathed. It reverses the action to 0 to nullify the effect, it doesn't just nullify the effect directly and call it a day.
I don't remember Pucci's nonsense at the end very well but here's what Chat GPT gave me
GER only nullifies actions that are actively targeting Giorno or his victory. Made in Heaven reset the entire universe, not Giorno specifically — it was a passive, universal effect. Since Pucci didn’t aim it at Giorno and Giorno wasn’t present, GER didn’t treat it as a direct threat, so it didn’t activate.

Basically: no intent, no trigger — no "Revert to Zero
."."
So if you destroy a random city where Giorno lives without the intention to kill him then do you succeed or not?
Yes, you could succeed — if Giorno isn't directly threatened and GER doesn't perceive the action as targeting him or his "victory."

But here's the catch:

GER has some level of "will" or awareness — it reacts to anything that endangers Giorno or his goals, even indirectly.

So, if destroying the city would put Giorno in danger, GER could still nullify the action — even if you didn’t intend to harm him.


In short:

No threat to Giorno or his success = GER might do nothing

Any danger to Giorno = GER likely kicks in and resets the action


GER protects Giorno’s state of victory, not just his physical body. It's like an auto-judge of intent and consequence.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#37
I don’t know who this individual is lol
Small description:

GER works by erasing the effect but keeping the cause. It resets things to 0, making it as if the effect of your actions never happened. The death loop works in that you go through the experience of dying (the cause), but you never die (the effect, being dead, is erased), and since you don't die, you experience dying again (reset to 0). This resetting concept can be applied to virtually everything.

GER also works independently of Giorno, so matters of Giorno's reaction speed or how quickly his powers is countered is moot. Only way to beat him is reality warping hax (like with The World Over Heaven) or causality-breaking hax, to be free from GER's resets and loops.
 
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