[FNZ] Role Madness Overlord Mafia Game Thread

Do you wish for Plurality+hammer option if majority of votes are reached?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • No

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • We want to shorten this day phase to 34 hours

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Worst
Polar Bear
Ratchet
I'm sorry but this really is awful. You think as scum my read and play around Worst amounts to "yeah he can go but I dunno I won't drive it"? It's so sloppy, like I would basically be giving you a giant neon sign saying "hey my scum mate is here". How bad at this do you think I am? And Polar Bear? Polar Bear, who's read on me started as "Ratchet looks fine" and then swapped over once my name started cropping up after it was known a kill failed on me? Is that how you think we're playing this as scum?

I know I'll just get a shitty gotcha in response so don't bother, I've given you the answers but alas you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Stargate18
Jaguark101
Yo Tan Wa
LethalBanks
Charlie
Why are Dofla and Aurelian so high? Yoho can easily be scum too. The bottom list can all go. Like why is it only me capable of noticing that our lists are probably nearly identical - if I were to tier them, with the exception of a handful of slots that should be within margin for error, but you tell me my solve is shit? Almost all of your town reads are reads I came to before you were even in the game. It's just so shit, like the complete lack of thought that goes into some of your posts Ultra is embarrassing to be honest.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Just to illustrate my point for those of you for whom words are too difficult:
Flower
LANJI CUCKSMOKE
hime
The Orca
Michelle
Peroroncino
Crying bc no Cryo
I would move Crying and Hime out of here. Crying down to the tier below.
No idea why these two are so high.
Hayumi
Yoho
York
I would move Hayumi and York up, Yoho can stay there.
Boquise
Stargate18
Jaguark101
Yo Tan Wa
LethalBanks
Charlie
I would move Boq up and probably slot hime in here somewhere. Otherwise as presented.
Worst
Polar Bear
Ratchet
I would move Lethal and Aurelian into here.

So that means that, for a tier placement perspective, the only significant difference is hime and Aurelian are much lower for mine. So this genius is essentially arguing that my PoE is "hollow.... for lack of a better word" on the basis that two slots we a in clear disagreement on.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Just to illustrate my point for those of you for whom words are too difficult:
Flower
LANJI CUCKSMOKE
hime
The Orca
Michelle
Peroroncino
Crying bc no Cryo
I would move Crying and Hime out of here. Crying down to the tier below.
No idea why these two are so high.
Hayumi
Yoho
York
I would move Hayumi and York up, Yoho can stay there.
Boquise
Stargate18
Jaguark101
Yo Tan Wa
LethalBanks
Charlie
I would move Boq up and probably slot hime in here somewhere. Otherwise as presented.
Worst
Polar Bear
Ratchet
I would move Lethal and Aurelian into here.

So that means that, for a tier placement perspective, the only significant difference is hime and Aurelian are much lower for mine. So this genius is essentially arguing that my PoE is "hollow.... for lack of a better word" on the basis that two slots we a in clear disagreement on.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Thank you for actually mentioning me, had no idea there was a wagon ongoing for me.

It's my birthday today, so I've been inactive for IRL reasons the last few days. I think I laid out my reasoning for believing Ekko at the time, though - the move seemed to make no sense coming from non-town, and (even though he was SK), I still believe it was scum attempting to get two towns miselimmed and not realising they targeted a 3p.
I don't mind this post. Maybe Star can move up a tier.
 
Actually because most of you are not very good at this I think I'm probably going to get Vigged after already having been shot by Mafia. One would expect some capacity for nuance here but alas.

I won't claim yet but I'm fairly certain my claim should be clearing, then again with the state of my interlocutors who really knows lol. If you're thinking about shooting me then at least use the rest of today to get a claim.
I personally think that’s unnecessary for now lol
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
It probably could be as simple as Worst/Polar/Lethal etc. I do wonder about the NF game message though. Was Worst in that game? Could it be as simple as him? I'm starting to think the best thing to do with that message is disregard its existance, with bastard elements present i think the possibility that it is leading one into mistaken conclusions is too high to be worth anything reliable.
 
No Hayumi, I consider most of the players in this game as unthinking sheep that will just shoot from that list because Ultra is confirmed town. I will be vigged this game, 100%.
yikes but you’re not wrong. Give me a few hours when I’m home and I’ll try to start cooking.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
It probably could be as simple as Worst/Polar/Lethal etc. I do wonder about the NF game message though. Was Worst in that game? Could it be as simple as him? I'm starting to think the best thing to do with that message is disregard its existance, with bastard elements present i think the possibility that it is leading one into mistaken conclusions is too high to be worth anything reliable.
I say this because I've been sitting on secret tinfoil that Soul may have been scum with a fake town flip. There is absolutely nothing i can point to to evidence this but it is a gut feeling I had from how he was posting when he was the likely lynch candidate. Now, because it's pretty much baseless as far as evidence goes, I'm making no attempt to argue it should be considered as part of any wider conclusions. But I do think focusing on this message is a flawed angle because I don't see anyone in the game aside from hime and Flower thinking to try something like that.

Flower I think is town based on how she responded to Ekko yesterday. Hime I think had a pretty lame reaction to my suggestion that she could be behind this, that was to be outraged at the mere suggestion of it, so I think it's not impossible, but when I consider the wider game, and even her wider play, it doesn't really line up for me. I had her as pretty comfortably town as of day 1 end. Maybe I need to refer back to my notes for that.

And after that my leads are dead. Just doesn't line up for anyone else.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
No Hayumi, I consider most of the players in this game as unthinking sheep that will just shoot from that list because Ultra is confirmed town. I will be vigged this game, 100%.
I should point out that you basically have it on good authority that I was factional killed night 1 and apparently it's still not enough for some of you. Hell, I volunteered the info about having survived a kill and been notified of such due to a passive of mine, and I saw hime earlier argue that that could just be fake info I'm giving for nothing. Why do i give this fake info for no reason that is virtually putting me into a counter claim scenario with another player having claimed something similar? Who knows, such arguments are beyond me.
 
Actually because most of you are not very good at this I think I'm probably going to get Vigged after already having been shot by Mafia. One would expect some capacity for nuance here but alas.

I won't claim yet but I'm fairly certain my claim should be clearing, then again with the state of my interlocutors who really knows lol. If you're thinking about shooting me then at least use the rest of today to get a claim.
??
what are you going on about
did anyone threaten to shoot you
 
I say this because I've been sitting on secret tinfoil that Soul may have been scum with a fake town flip. There is absolutely nothing i can point to to evidence this but it is a gut feeling I had from how he was posting when he was the likely lynch candidate. Now, because it's pretty much baseless as far as evidence goes, I'm making no attempt to argue it should be considered as part of any wider conclusions. But I do think focusing on this message is a flawed angle because I don't see anyone in the game aside from hime and Flower thinking to try something like that.
Doubtful "some bastard elements" extends to this in a role madness game
 
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