Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1148 Spoilers Discussion

Is Saint Sommers done for ?


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I disagree. I think outcomes matter too. Like is Marco stronger than Zoro since Marco matched up with BM in Wano while Zoro matched with King?
That’s false equivalence, Marco didn’t have a singular standout major opponent in Wano whereas the admirals and Mihawk at MF did.

It’s much more analogous to SH matchups against enemy crews
 
So strong that Marco sent Vista after him instead of himself lol
Being able to keep someone occupied is not the same as being able to actually win.
Vista would always lose in the end. Just not quickly.
Same as none of the commanders lost to the Admirals until WBs heartattack threw them off.
Admirals would still win even without the distraction, but it would take way longer.
 
What does this have to do with me
I can put Jinbe on Fraudwatch if that's the general consensus but to me, y'all are clearly jumping the gun.

Jinbe has literally stated he's tryna think of a counter - bro is just chilling, none of the SHs took any significant damage around him; yes, Nami is mad that he's let them get captured, but that's just further proof that Jinbe's portrayal is undeniably closer to the M3's vs the mid trio's, as Nami has zero expectations for Brook.
:willight: Maybe all that thinking he doing fried his 2 fish brain cells
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Can you explain how a swordsman can be stronger than the strongest swordsman?
This argument is really exhausting.
I explained it a lot already

do you think Mihawk is above Roger ? My answer is no. So the black blade argument isn’t that valid

Are titles absolute in OP ? My answer is no. WB had an equal (I think Roger was a shade stronger). Kaido was matched by Oden etc. You can have a WS title and still having a rival that can match you.

Do Shanks > Mihawk hurt Zoro dream ? I don’t think so. I don’t think Shanks is linked to Z dream at all. Like I don’t think Roger is linked to Z dream. They are on Luffy side of the story. Shanks bet the future on Luffy and removed himself from dueling Mihawk.
 
:willight: Maybe all that thinking he doing fried his 2 fish brain cells
Can you read?

Where in my post did I say Jinbe willingly let himself be captured i.e. didn't fight back?

I said Jinbe is chilling, thinking of a counter... which is a genuine manga fact lmfao.

I swear y'all be losing IQ points by the day
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Again, it’s the portrayal. I don’t think there’s anything at MF suggests Mihawk was above the admirals and the matchup portrayal isn’t favorable.

It really isn’t deeper than that for me
I agree about portrayal standing supreme :

This is Mihawk portrayal :

- rival of Shanks
- Zoro endgame or point just before the endgame / extremely important character for Zoro overall
- black blade holder
- here since almost day 1 in the story

It’s above Admiral for me, except maybe Akainu

MF was a shit show with top tiers underperforming for different reasons. Mihawk had no reason to go all out and Oda wanted to keep his moveset and power for endgame. So be it.
 
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