Although I disagree with the premise of this thread, I don't even fault you for coming to such a conclusion. The way Oda has Luffy stepping on the toes of other characters and their stories such as Zoro is absolutely disgusting. It's rather shameful that Oda's purposely undermining his characters simply for Luffy's popularity. I wish the old tard would take his head out of his ass and write a proper story, but that's just wishful thinking at this point.
Lol, it's not about Zoro personally, I don't find EOS conversations really useful generally, it's mostly just headcanon based on other series. I also don't like saying "eos Sanji will be yonko/admiral level because of Gaban" and so on
And Oda refusing to do simple A>B>C scaling hurts it objectively. For example, if we had Mihawk beating prime Rayleigh in a duel, we could easily say, okay Zoro will surpass Rayleigh through that, but even as old men, Oda won't let Rayleigh and Gaban lose fair 1v1s, which I think is just dumb
I never understood the point of ryuma and if Imu was so OP why they had problem with Samurais and Kaido could easily invade them .
The whole story looks way too silly if Imu had powers to make enemies into demon buddies . I probably suspect Will of D will play role at some point or it makes no sense how Ryun a could have took out WG .
Imu’s involvement in Elbaf is a unique scenario because of Mariejois being on fire… Imu was not involved in trying to take over Wano… someome would have written down the fact that a fuckin devil being attacked Wano one time… What’s stated is that the Ryuma singlehandedly stopped the celestial dragons form invading… These are the Gorosei and Holy knights who actually get involved in fights
The point of Ryuma is to be a parallel to Luffy as the hero of Wano… and of course to explain how Wano wasn’t taken over by the government yet… Oda could’ve somehow made it that Wano has had the military power to fight the government for centuries but then Oda couldn’t explain how Kaido took over the country if Wano was so strong… So he made it that Wano was once OVERWHELMINGLY STRONG with ONE MAN who could do Joyboy level shit and beat them off by himself and since then because the WG didn’t have any information about how strong the people of Wano are, they just chose not to try and take over the country simply because One man scared them down much that one time.
Yeah but there’s a ceiling of Luffy accomplishments Zoro cannot break… For example Mihawk already said Pirate king exceeds Zoro’s ambition… the big problem with surpassing Ryuma and even Roger is that Zoro will need the comparable feats to match… Like if Luffy has to fight 3 Fruit Blackbeard for the pirate king title, who will Zoro fight that’s Comparable to a 3 fruit Blackbeard to even Reach Roger levels? I don’t think Mihawk is that strong. I don’t think Nusjuro will be that strong… so who is left? And Ryuma’s stated feats are even more ridiculous than that so how Zoro expected to match those? The bad guy side simply doesn’t have strong enough subordinates for this… Zoro would basically need to fight like final boss tier characters that Luffy is fighting to get these feats
The hell is this random dragon ball scaling… Use One piece language
tf is is “human tier” “god tier”? Tf?
Mmhmm no. Ryuma is compared to Joyboy… which is the literal highest comparison you can make in the series right now
Zoro will not be compared to Joyboy, that’s Luffy’s territory. EoS Zoro will NOT BE CLOSE TO EoS top 1 in the Verse Luffy
Imu’s involvement in Elbaf is a unique scenario because of Mariejois being on fire… Imu was not involved in trying to take over Wano… someome would have written down the fact that a fuckin devil being attacked Wano one time… What’s stated is that the Ryuma singlehandedly stopped the celestial dragons form invading… These are the Gorosei and Holy knights who actually get involved in fights
The point of Ryuma is to be a parallel to Luffy as the hero of Wano… and of course to explain how Wano wasn’t taken over by the government yet… Oda could’ve somehow made it that Wano has had the military power to fight the government for centuries but then Oda couldn’t explain how Kaido took over the country if Wano was so strong… So he made it that Wano was once OVERWHELMINGLY STRONG with ONE MAN who could do Joyboy level shit and beat them off by himself and since then because the WG didn’t have any information about how strong the people of Wano are, they just chose not to try and take over the country simply because One man scared them down much that one time.
Yeah but there’s a ceiling of Luffy accomplishments Zoro cannot break… For example Mihawk already said Pirate king exceeds Zoro’s ambition… the big problem with surpassing Ryuma and even Roger is that Zoro will need the comparable feats to match… Like if Luffy has to fight 3 Fruit Blackbeard for the pirate king title, who will Zoro fight that’s Comparable to a 3 fruit Blackbeard to even Reach Roger levels? I don’t think Mihawk is that strong. I don’t think Nusjuro will be that strong… so who is left? And Ryuma’s stated feats are even more ridiculous than that so how Zoro expected to match those? The bad guy side simply doesn’t have strong enough subordinates for this… Zoro would basically need to fight like final boss tier characters that Luffy is fighting to get these feats
The hell is this random dragon ball scaling… Use One piece language
tf is is “human tier” “god tier”? Tf?
Mmhmm no. Ryuma is compared to Joyboy… which is the literal highest comparison you can make in the series right now
Zoro will not be compared to Joyboy, that’s Luffy’s territory. EoS Zoro will NOT BE CLOSE TO EoS top 1 in the Verse Luffy
Imu’s involvement in Elbaf is a unique scenario because of Mariejois being on fire… Imu was not involved in trying to take over Wano… someome would have written down the fact that a fuckin devil being attacked Wano one time… What’s stated is that the Ryuma singlehandedly stopped the celestial dragons form invading… These are the Gorosei and Holy knights who actually get involved in fights
The point of Ryuma is to be a parallel to Luffy as the hero of Wano… and of course to explain how Wano wasn’t taken over by the government yet… Oda could’ve somehow made it that Wano has had the military power to fight the government for centuries but then Oda couldn’t explain how Kaido took over the country if Wano was so strong… So he made it that Wano was once OVERWHELMINGLY STRONG with ONE MAN who could do Joyboy level shit and beat them off by himself and since then because the WG didn’t have any information about how strong the people of Wano are, they just chose not to try and take over the country simply because One man scared them down much that one time.
Yeah but there’s a ceiling of Luffy accomplishments Zoro cannot break… For example Mihawk already said Pirate king exceeds Zoro’s ambition… the big problem with surpassing Ryuma and even Roger is that Zoro will need the comparable feats to match… Like if Luffy has to fight 3 Fruit Blackbeard for the pirate king title, who will Zoro fight that’s Comparable to a 3 fruit Blackbeard to even Reach Roger levels? I don’t think Mihawk is that strong. I don’t think Nusjuro will be that strong… so who is left? And Ryuma’s stated feats are even more ridiculous than that so how Zoro expected to match those? The bad guy side simply doesn’t have strong enough subordinates for this… Zoro would basically need to fight like final boss tier characters that Luffy is fighting to get these feats
Can you stop making fan fictions? You take for granted that Imu never invaded Wano, but for some reason all the Gorosei did? Ryuma is literally famous for slaying a dragon in Wano, not any Yokai's or whatever. And for this apparent fear of Ryuma, I don't think any government character has even mentioned him by name
Mihawk saying becoming pirate king is harder then becoming WSS doesn't mean PK>>>WSS. There's simply more people competing for the PK title and the government wants to prevent a new PK
Can you stop making fan fictions? You take for granted that Imu never invaded Wano, but for some reason all the Gorosei did? Ryuma is literally famous for slaying a dragon in Wano, not any Yokai's or whatever. And for this apparent fear of Ryuma, I don't think any government character has even mentioned him by name
Mihawk saying becoming pirate king is harder then becoming WSS doesn't mean PK>>>WSS. There's simply more people competing for the PK title and the government wants to prevent a new PK
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Current Luffy has awakened a god fruit, why isn't he god tier?
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