I legit saw some of the Zoro club here claiming super cringe stuff about sanji the beta, threat girls bad like zoro, girls want to be treated bad and stuff like this that is honestly way worse according to my values. I can understand if you don't feel free to express your ideas, it can be annoying, but some of them even though they might appear arrogant I don't seem them devaluing others like some way more toxic users do.