Current Events Sanji vs King or Zoro vs King? Pros and cons.

Who vs King

  • Zoro

    Votes: 154 70.6%

  • Sanji

    Votes: 64 29.4%
  • Total voters
    218
Hiragaro

Hiragaro

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#501
#501
Albino 👑 said:
  1. I genuinely think they're cool
  2. Itll help lots of other characters shine imo
  3. Cool character synergy and interactions
  4. Plus i dont think the other strawhats can solo their "yonko equivalent"
    • Dont think luffy will solo kaido the captain
    • Dont think think zsj can solo the calamities aka the main fighters of the crew
    • Dont think the other 6 can solo the tobiroppo but if itll be lame if they didnt fight especially if zsj fight calamities
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Thats definitely a part of it too
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Oh plus 1 arc with tag team fights aint the end of the world
We still got at least 2 more yonko and whoever they fight in the final war

This whole saga has been about gaining allies to help us take down the beast pirates. The allies are important

Post wano then yeah the strawhats + fleet should be able to defeat a yonko crew. Now would just be dumb imo
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OP is almost over and they didn't had any serious 1 vs 1 since EL...that's 14-15 years in our time...i think it's enough waiting...

Luffy won't solo Kaidou that's just a too big jump from getting one shoted to defeating him. But that's not an argument for others not getting 1 vs 1's.
Zoro and Sanji fighting calamities is the most believable and plausible from the SH's.
They are above Toppi Robi in their "base" and now they got a PU, it just makes sense for them to fight the calamities next and they should be able to 1 vs 1 them.
The Toppi Robo are too strong for the rest of the SH's not including Jimbei ofc. One of them ate an elephant gun to the face and it only almost dislocated his jaw lol. The mid and weak trio's ain't doing shit to them. The difference is just too big. They can fight them in 2vs1 or fight Numbers or something. Or even some Headliners, Oda can pull out some strong ones.
But that's again not saying Zoro and Sanji won't get 1 vs 1. I also can't even imagine why they would team up with some random people they barely know, when they can solo them.
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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#502
#502
Hiragaro said:
OP is almost over and they didn't had any serious 1 vs 1 since EL...that's 14-15 years in our time...i think it's enough waiting...

Luffy won't solo Kaidou that's just a too big jump from getting one shoted to defeating him. But that's not an argument for others not getting 1 vs 1's.
Zoro and Sanji fighting calamities is the most believable and plausible from the SH's.
They are above Toppi Robi in their "base" and now they got a PU, it just makes sense for them to fight the calamities next and they should be able to 1 vs 1 them.
The Toppi Robo are too strong for the rest of the SH's not including Jimbei ofc. One of them ate an elephant gun to the face and it only almost dislocated his jaw lol. The mid and weak trio's ain't doing shit to them. The difference is just too big. They can fight them in 2vs1 or fight Numbers or something. Or even some Headliners, Oda can pull out some strong ones.
But that's again not saying Zoro and Sanji won't get 1 vs 1. I also can't even imagine why they would team up with some random people they barely know, when they can solo them.
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Its been 14-15 years oda obviously doesn't mind holding it off
It's not like they haven't had fight since then

The strawhats basically fit the same mold more or less as every other yonko crews main 10
Luffy - kaido (captain)
Zoro sanji and jinbe - all stars (top 3 commanders aka main fighters)
Franky robin brook chopper nami usopp - tobiroppo (main part of the crews just not as strong as commanders)

If luffy has to tag team kaido
While zsj solo calamities
And the rest fight essentially nobodys thatd be dumb imo

Its not like luffy will be actually stronger than the yonko automatically after the arc ends cause theyll arguably still be stronger
The 6 weaker strawhats likely wont be vet level but they should at least be getting close
Zsj shouldn't be the only one to surpass their yonko equivalents

And again this whole arc and saga has been building up to the alliance defeating the beast pirates not just the strawhats
They still have time to solo a yonko post wano
 
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duckman

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#503
#503
Hiragaro said:
OP is almost over and they didn't had any serious 1 vs 1 since EL...that's 14-15 years in our time...i think it's enough waiting...

Luffy won't solo Kaidou that's just a too big jump from getting one shoted to defeating him. But that's not an argument for others not getting 1 vs 1's.
Zoro and Sanji fighting calamities is the most believable and plausible from the SH's.
They are above Toppi Robi in their "base" and now they got a PU, it just makes sense for them to fight the calamities next and they should be able to 1 vs 1 them.
The Toppi Robo are too strong for the rest of the SH's not including Jimbei ofc. One of them ate an elephant gun to the face and it only almost dislocated his jaw lol. The mid and weak trio's ain't doing shit to them. The difference is just too big. They can fight them in 2vs1 or fight Numbers or something. Or even some Headliners, Oda can pull out some strong ones.
But that's again not saying Zoro and Sanji won't get 1 vs 1. I also can't even imagine why they would team up with some random people they barely know, when they can solo them.
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Oda would most certainly be shocked to hear that.
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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#506
#506
So lets say it happens
Luffy beat kaido with hella team work (kid law killer zoro etc.)
Zsj solo the calamities
The rest of the crew fights grifters maybe even some head liners

Post wano
Luffy will hopefully be able to push a top tier mid diff by himself
Zsj are too strong for most commanders trios. With sanji himself needing at least a 1yc level opponent
And the rest are still fodder that cant compete with vet level characters
 
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chacharealsmooth

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#512
#512
Well, arguments can be made against both cases. For Sanji fighting King and Zoro fighting Queen, it might make sense as King’s fighting style revolves around maneuverability while Queen definitely seems like the most durable person after Kaido in Beast Pirates. Zoro got Enma but he is probably still not strong enough to damage Kaido seriously (Mind you I don’t consider what Scabbards did as a serious damage, it just “sobered” Kaido), he might need one more step before being strong enough to face Kaido alongside Luffy, Kid and Law.
Other case is Zoro taking on King and Sanji taking on Queen. This also makes sense due to commander dynamics (YC1/YC2) and representing weaknesses of Zoro and Sanji, which are mobility/evasion/precision (Zoro’s weak point is CoO, he needs power up on that regard) and durability/AP/strength (Sanji’s weak point is CoA, he needs a SERIOUS power up on that regard)
 
Aknolagon

Aknolagon

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#513
#513
chacharealsmooth said:
Well, arguments can be made against both cases. For Sanji fighting King and Zoro fighting Queen, it might make sense as King’s fighting style revolves around maneuverability while Queen definitely seems like the most durable person after Kaido in Beast Pirates. Zoro got Enma but he is probably still not strong enough to damage Kaido seriously (Mind you I don’t consider what Scabbards did as a serious damage, it just “sobered” Kaido), he might need one more step before being strong enough to face Kaido alongside Luffy, Kid and Law.
Other case is Zoro taking on King and Sanji taking on Queen. This also makes sense due to commander dynamics (YC1/YC2) and representing weaknesses of Zoro and Sanji, which are mobility/evasion/precision (Zoro’s weak point is CoO, he needs power up on that regard) and durability/AP/strength (Sanji’s weak point is CoA, he needs a SERIOUS power up on that regard)
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Where did you ever see Zoro having trouble with his COO ? Did you actually have a confirmation or panels from Zoro saying "fuck i can't see him or my coo is bad" ? Kamazou ? Oda made it clear that 1 vs more than 1 are a disadvantage for anyone. Luffy got hurt by apoo, where was the COO ?
Mobility ? Evasion ? And especially precision ? Do you even know what these words mean ?
Zoro mostly finish his fights with one attack, how the fuck he lacks precision ? Evasion ? You are talking about the guy who avoided kuma's bubbles like nothing ? And when sanji showed us something like that ? Against doffy, where was the mobility or evasion ? LMAO!

Believing for tag teaming or that kidd and law are gonna hurt so much kaido when they never showed phenomenal AP, but zoro, who cut a mountain size golem with only his raw strenght + enma who wounded forever kaido, can't :milaugh:
What law and kidd showed us till now that put them even on doffy lvl ? Nothing. Don't talk like you know something when your arguments are based also on headconnons.
 
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