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I was talking about legends not any good guys lol. Law negged lergo also.
Shiki required 3 days of fighting sengoku and Garp, remember

Luffy himself didn’t beat Kaido in a clean 1v1

there is no rule that Oda doesn’t diminish feats of “legends”… we were told that Whitebeard’s claim to fame was that he could fight Roger and then when we saw it on panel, it’s revealed to have been a joke fight… Whitebeard has never actually fought serious Roger…
 
Shiki required 3 days of fighting sengoku and Garp, remember

Luffy himself didn’t beat Kaido in a clean 1v1

there is no rule that Oda doesn’t diminish feats of “legends”… we were told that Whitebeard’s claim to fame was that he could fight Roger and then when we saw it on panel, it’s revealed to have been a joke fight… Whitebeard has never actually fought serious Roger…
3 days?

where did you get that from
 
According to a draft for Film Z Roger and WB were in their prime in their late 30s
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Kaido had potential to be a deep character with thosw liners holy shit

Even some of the dialogue with yamato. Basically everytime Kaido fought Luffy he was a different character
his flashback was rushed
 
Kaido had potential to be a deep character with thosw liners holy shit

Even some of the dialogue with yamato. Basically everytime Kaido fought Luffy he was a different character
Clearly the best philosopher we have in One Piece, he holds the epithet of the King of Wisdom.
Here, after Oden's death, is when Kaidou finds out that Oden had a son — he didn't even know that the boy the old witch used as a hostage against Oden was his son, he didn’t even know what he looked like.
 
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