Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

[Cruxroux]

Not really into the Naruto power scaling thing but I dont like Tobirama disrespect. One of the best chars imo, a true genius and probably one of the most well rounded fighters we got. He got shoved because he was not narratively important in the rebirth thing and had no connection to the MC.

I meant no disrespect but.
He did crafted a lot of imp jutsu. But He wasn't strong enough.
Naruto still chiling with Rasengan. Wind style rasengan and shadow clone.

Bigger arsenal means more Chakra consumption.

 

[Shiroyru]

Why did an Emperor BB need help with him then. Maybe he didn't want to become Emperor he just wanted Pirate island

The WG doesn’t ask for your consent before making you an Emperor lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Log off

I just tell the truth.
And nothing you do can erase the fact that Oda himself said Shiki = Roger.

 

[Fujishiro]

Oda doesn't give a rat's ass about this, stop acting like he does. Oda treats Big Mom's reign as part of the middle generation with characters far younger than herself. Shiki is portrayed as a bigger threat than BM when she was middle aged.

When BM was middle aged she was still having kids, her entire empire is based off family. Her crew wasnt strong then.

 

[Shiroyru]

He has a point @ZenZu those guys had strong established crews and organisations backing them up whereas BM was a fledgeling empire that we were told explicitly relied on her growing up through family connections.

Tbf Teen Kata could probably bully whatever garbage was Shiki’s RHM, but yeah the BMPs were still growing back then

 

[Shiroyru]

I just tell the truth.
And nothing you do can erase the fact that Oda himself said Shiki = Roger.

I was mainly referring to your lewd comment above that

 

[Fujishiro]

Tbf Teen Kata could probably bully whatever garbage was Shiki’s RHM, but yeah the BMPs were still growing back then

Lord Kuri was a different breed.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

This excuse got shot down when Oda made Silver Axe Shiki’s rival. Ochoku was also grouped with those 2 and was still an active pirate even after WB died, yet was placed below WB, Kaido, and BM

Well he wasn’t a Yonko because he didn’t have an empire. Ruling one island doesn’t make you a Yonko

I mean it’s possible that he was also too weak to become a Yonko, that’s true, but he again, him ruling pirate island alone can’t make him a Yonko

what we do know is that he didn’t go down easy… He required a Yonko and Law and Koby to defeat. At 80 years old

 

[Blazing Lion]

I meant no disrespect but.
He did crafted a lot of imp jutsu. But He wasn't strong enough.
Naruto still chiling with Rasengan. Wind style rasengan and shadow clone.

Bigger arsenal means more Chakra consumption.

Compared to whom is Tobirama not strong enough, the Asura and Indra reincarnations? I think against others he has got fair chance.

 

[Juanpiz]

Reminder that shiki pulled up alone to marineford

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I was mainly referring to your lewd comment above that

I know but even that has some truth to it, while I obviously exaggerated her having sex with Hybrid/Zoan Sengoku for the lols I do think they're definitely the grandparents of Kujaku. Too many coincidences for her to just be another random Marine imo

 

[SakazOuki]

Yes Sengoku was to Shiki what Garp was to Roger. Don't act daft.

Big Mom was never a part of the equation when the old legends were in their primes, and she is only a few years younger than WB. She was definitely in her prime as well, just not the late stage of her prime.

Ace novel also mentioned how the seas were ruled by Roger Whitebeard and Shiki, no mention of Meme
She's clearly an inferior class of pirate

 

[Ven437]

She clearly ran the seas when those guys retired, got old, or died off. This is made pretty clear based off everything we know.

 

[Cruxroux]

Compared to whom is Tobirama not strong enough, the Asura and Indra reincarnations? I think against others he has got fair chance.

I wouldn't bet on him against Minato and Sarutobi specifically.

Even pain or Itachi maybe... more towards itachi as he has High IQ as well.

 

[Shiroyru]

Well he wasn’t a Yonko because he didn’t have an empire. Ruling one island doesn’t make you a Yonko

I mean it’s possible that he was also too weak to become a Yonko, that’s true, but he again, him ruling pirate island alone can’t make him a Yonko

what we do know is that he didn’t go down easy… He required a Yonko and Law and Koby to defeat. At 80 years old

Cross Guild became a Yonko crew despite ruling only 1 island

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes 2 decades lmao

 

[Shiroyru]

Ace novel also mentioned how the seas were ruled by Roger Whitebeard and Shiki, no mention of Meme
She's clearly an inferior class of pirate

Doesn’t that novel also say Kaido > WB?

 

[Fujishiro]

Ace novel also mentioned how the seas were ruled by Roger Whitebeard and Shiki, no mention of Meme
She's clearly an inferior class of pirate

Doesnt Ace novel mention that BM was still a fleldgeling empire then.

 

[Shiroyru]

Doesnt Ace novel mention that BM was still a fleldgeling empire then.

The Ace novel wasn’t even written by Oda

 

[SakazOuki]

Doesnt Ace novel mention that BM was still a fleldgeling empire then.

I think she gets mentioned as part of the old gen alongside Whitebeard
And Shanks and Kaido as new gen