Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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I am listing facts.

factually, Perospero is 50 years old and your insinuation that there was a sexual relationship before that is in your head

factually, No one has ever called Struesen Big mom’s father figure. That’s also in your head.

factually all we know is that Struesen helped Big mom off of WCI and fed her when she was 5 years old. Your assumption that their relationship became familial after that is in your head.

-and of course, Factually Big mom is a mass rapist as admitted by Oda himself that she FORCES men to sleep with her to get children… (how do you know she didn’t FORCE STRUESEN?)
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linlin's cruelty up until that point was never done out of choice
she was clearly mentally ill
she was raised by streusen and shortly after she began to revel in those things she did
as a child all those things werent done out of malice but spasms caused by food cravings.

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she was not in charge at 8
thats called influence.
The more I think about it the more insane it is. Like no way this dude thought child Big Mom, who lost her adoptive mother and all her friends after cannibalizing them, and also was consistently hated and bullied for being such a big brute, isn't susceptible to manipulation by someone like Streusen. Come on now.
 
I am listing facts.

factually, Perospero is 50 years old and your insinuation that there was a sexual relationship before that is in your head

factually, No one has ever called Struesen Big mom’s father figure. That’s also in your head.

factually all we know is that Struesen helped Big mom off of WCI and fed her when she was 5 years old. Your assumption that their relationship became familial after that is in your head.

-and of course, Factually Big mom is a mass rapist as admitted by Oda himself that she FORCES men to sleep with her to get children… (how do you know she didn’t FORCE STRUESEN?)
hes been with her since then mate
I dont know why you want to deny that.
that wasnt some see you soon meeting
theyve been a pair since.
 
I am listing facts.

factually, Perospero is 50 years old and your insinuation that there was a sexual relationship before that is in your head

factually, No one has ever called Struesen Big mom’s father figure. That’s also in your head.

factually all we know is that Struesen helped Big mom off of WCI and fed her when she was 5 years old. Your assumption that their relationship became familial after that is in your head.

-and of course, Factually Big mom is a mass rapist as admitted by Oda himself that she FORCES men to sleep with her to get children… (how do you know she didn’t FORCE STRUESEN?)
Bro.
If you saw a little girl crying on the street and decided to take her in, get her some warm soup and a blanket, etc., and took care of her until she was an adult, would you not reject her if she tried to come onto you then? Even though she's now an adult?
 
They literally formed the crew together??? Bro you’re wayyy in the wrong here
What’s that got to do with what I’m talking about?
she was raised by streusen and shortly after she began to revel in those things she did
and do you remember what the main theme of the flashback was? The biggest problem with big momma was that NO ONE COULD MAKE HER STOP.

even without malice the problem was that no one could discipline her.

so what happens when a character cannot be made to face punishment for their actions as they grow? They will eventually realize that they can do whatever they want

Big mom’s “innocence” as a kid wasn’t due to her making some direct choice to be “innocent”… She was just a dumb kid… obviously as she grew up and she actually started understanding things, she soon realized that the reason she was allowed to do whatever as a kid was that no one could stop her… And that’s exactly how it’s continued
Streusen didn't raise her because she did bad things as a toddler and Streusen, the pirate, totally wasn't influencing her to do those bad things in the first place!"
why would she need to be influenced? The point of the flashback is that NO ONE COULD STOP HER FROM DOING WHATEVER SHE WANTED

She grew up stronger than everyone around and we’ve seen How this affects characters like Harald and Loki and even to some extent Oden… simply being a natural born monster directly leads to characters being violent idiots who do whatever they want… Big mom’s is just the Unreformed version of these other guys
 
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