Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

Will Sanji unclock CoC


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Because pirates lack discipline at the end of the day. We saw Momonga control himself in the face of duty. When you don't have a duty this is what happens.

I always told people Vergo would beat tf out of Hancock. He's a pirate but he's marine coded, he's not falling for that simp shit.
Does Blackbeard have any discipline he is a scumbag, or is he and Luffy gay not even Ace reacted to Hancock's charm

Magellan was heavily investex innduty but fell to Hancock

Conclusion: stop trying to find logic in this clown manga, there is none
 
The problems with this Oda's decision is that:

1) GV incident never was a threat to WG
2) Rocks Pirates never came close to defeat WG (I always thought WG was desperate because of Rocks)
3) GV (the greatest event of the old gen) is less important than Marineford
4) Xebec wasn't the big deal (it is Davy Jones)
5) No need of all mysterious stuff surround GV incident

The only thing that still ok is: the secrets Xebec know to defeat the WG. Its still a big deal

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Fucking Roger and garp joined forces with Literally Celestial dragons just to save the slave shakky. These clowns helped literal genociding war crime commiting nazi fucks just to save a single bitch

What a character assassination
 
It kinda feels forced.
Same as Oden, no one talked any bit about Shakky. Like no one in the story said"remember the Kuja queen who made the strongest pirates fall in love with her"...

I still hope Shakky is not the reason for God Valley.
That was 40 years ago and people move on to the new hottest .
Like we see it all the time in our world and it much easier for info to reach around our world than the OP one.
 

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Oda really made the Roger Pirates help slavers (the CDs) just to claim Shakky. This is actually worse than the Kaguya plot twist tbh
Depends what the end goal is. Events triggered by something involving Shakky is ok. Happens all the time irl even, people have shed blood over women, but Shakky can't simply be the goal, she can be a trigger that starts something greater and it's still salvageable.
 
It kinda feels forced.
Same as Oden, no one talked any bit about Shakky. Like no one in the story said"remember the Kuja queen who made the strongest pirates fall in love with her"...

I still hope Shakky is not the reason for God Valley.
I think it is fella
I was wondering why there was heat towards Shakky outside of Sanji scaling but her being specifically coined as the "treasure of beehive" along with Garp saying that they stole a certain treasure from there makes me think that's the connection

So we're probably either gonna see the Marines attack beehive and she gets stolen Cammie style or it's actually Harald that attacks Beehive to try and kill Xebec and she gets stolen Ginny style during the commotion

And that one action leads to the death of Xebec and the end of the Rocks Pirates
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