Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The hostage thing doesn´t make sense either since Weevil has no reason to care, but I´d rather talk about Fujitora vs Aramaki rn, not that

It's more the argument about lack of apparent destruction (when it's not like we saw a full shot of the island)
Greenbull was fighting hundred of fodders alongside King and Queen, of course he would use big AOE moves that cause destruction to get rid of them quicker then wasting time taking them one by one. While Weevil was alone.
But if destruction is so important, than the admiral that got killed by Xebec was either hostage diffed or nerfed too since there was no apparent destruction in Marijoa and we were even told admirals can't use their full power without causing destruction there.

 

[Shiroyru]

Naruto is a silver medalist

Huh?

 

[soupongo]

Weevil was the warlord that took off Zephyr's arm, iirc?

yes,it couldn´t be anyone else

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Huh?

he couldn´t even beat Kiba in a fair fight

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Weevil was the warlord that took off Zephyr's arm, iirc?

Not confirmed

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Weevil was the warlord that took off Zephyr's arm, iirc?

Volume 1000 says that the future warlord manipulated Zephyr by pleading for his life saying he has a family after getting captured by him and then took Zephyr's arm when he released him out of pity. Weevil feels too stupid to pull this kind of stuff

 

[ZenZu]

This is the last frame we see of the jutsu, we don't know what stage it's in —the only visual indications are the dramatic shadings but that also exists on Kakuzu's panel—but we know 100% Kakashi cannot kamui that giant ballooned explosion, it's beyond his capabilities.

^^^ this is Kakashi the last major outing he had, his improvement hasn't gotten dramatically better if it's still a technique that puts him in the hospital with 1-2 uses.

If he uses kamui, he's not using it on the blast when it gets large.
If he's using kamui while it's either small enough to be sniped or before it combines, he's nailing Kakuzu with it as well. His head's in between the attack, it's gone with it.

And tbh Wind and Fire styles when mixed are almost instantly explosive too, the window for Kakashi to snipe the attack after its been used is very small. Kakashi's either very quick with his kamui here, when his mastery of it is so low it puts him in the hospital, or he's going before the attack is sent.

Spoiler

2 things.

1.Sniping his head may not have stopped the attack from blowing them apart
2.Sniping Kakuzu's head does not guarantee Kakuzu loses, as he still has his hearts. Kakashi had no way of knowing he could defeat Kakuzu with it.

It was strictly a last resort defensive tool in that moment to save his (and InoChoji's) life. He's not talking about defeating Kakuzu in that scene.

 

[Paragorn]

Weevil was the warlord that took off Zephyr's arm, iirc?

Unclear yet but if yes, it's a massive Greenbull upscale

 

[soupongo]

Volume 1000 says that the future warlord manipulated Zephyr by pleading for his life saying he has a family after getting captured by him and then took Zephyr's arm when he released him out of pity. Weevil feels too stupid to pull this kind of stuff

No, lmfao. That´s exactly how Weevil would act tbh. Unless you believe it was Law or Buggy

 

[Paragorn]

Crazy how this OP community try hard to invalidate Greenbull's feats at same time they keep glazing Mihawk with almost 0 feats(very few shit feats).

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

No, lmfao. That´s exactly how Weevil would act tbh. Unless you believe it was Law or Buggy

I think it doesn't matter as long Zephyr isn't canon. None of the warlord match. Weevil doesn't feel like the sneaky type, and I don't see Law pleading for his life in tears. I guess Buggy could pull this kind of stuff but that would be the biggest admiral L of all time

 

[Paragorn]

OP readers powerscale based on aura farming lmfao

 

[soupongo]

I think it doesn't matter as long Zephyr isn't canon. None of the warlord match. Weevil doesn't feel like the sneaky type, and I don't see Law pleading for his life in tears. I guess Buggy could pull this kind of stuff but that would be the biggest admiral L of all time

It´s weevil because the warlord wasn´t mentioned in the movie, and Oda wanted to keep Weevil a secret until after Dressrosa. Law and Buggy simply didn´t have a high enough bounty for it to be them either, though Weevil´s is also kind of low. Crying for his family is exactly what he would do

 

[Shiroyru]

No, but I think Kishimoto subconsciously gave away the Akatsuki ranking in his head.

It's too much of a coincidence that Itachi is at the top, Sasori is at 2nd, Hidan last, with Deidara 2nd to last. He definitely kept each member in mind when handing out the totals.

It's kinda like height scaling. It doesn't mean anything outside the context of comparing the members to each other.

Best I can say is maybe that was what Kishi had planned at start of Part 2, but it’s null and void because Kishi started powercreeping like crazy after Pain

 

[centurion]

@TheKnightOfTheSea Mars arc ?

 

[ZenZu]

OP readers powerscale based on aura farming lmfao

And they still refuse to accept Kizaru as top 1. Shows you how much hate is in this community.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

It´s weevil because the warlord wasn´t mentioned in the movie, and Oda wanted to keep Weevil a secret until after Dressrosa. Law and Buggy simply didn´t have a high enough bounty for it to be them either, though Weevil´s is also kind of low. Crying for his family is exactly what he would do

>I caught them (no gender in the japanese sentence), but they broke down crying that they had a family, and I ended up letting them go.
I guess Weevil did cry for his mom after Greenbull captured him, but thankfully GB isn't soft like Zephyr used to be so this shit didn't work

 

[soupongo]

>I caught them (no gender in the japanese sentence), but they broke down crying that they had a family, and I ended up letting them go.
I guess Weevil did cry for his mom after Greenbull captured him, but thankfully GB isn't soft like Zephyr used to be so this shit didn't work

Lmfao, I didn´t know Zephyr did this. I guess Oda even ruined HIM somehow.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@TheAncientCenturion Even if I steelman the Madara example and say he was stronger than his alive version, we know Kabuto specifically went out of his way to give him special treatment, and given what Tobirama says we can then conclude that every other "normal" Edo reincarnation would not be at full alive strength

I'm still skeptical, I'll have to go through the wikia for a few quotes later. The fact it's only on specific characters and not the entire cast of Edo Tensei is what has me more skeptical than anything

2 things.

1.Sniping his head may not have stopped the attack from blowing them apart
2.Sniping Kakuzu's head does not guarantee Kakuzu loses, as he still has his hearts. Kakashi had no way of knowing he could defeat Kakuzu with it.

It was strictly a last resort defensive tool in that moment to save his (and InoChoji's) life. He's not talking about defeating Kakuzu in that scene.

We don't know what happens if Kakuzu loses his head and it can't be reattached. Hearts control some degree of conscious because all chakra carries consciousness, but that doesn't mean they can remake/revive Kakuzu from that.

Both elemental jutsu fire from the masks' mouth and collide in front of Kakuzu. We've seen how big that explosion is almost instantly. There's an almost negligible chance Kakashi is kamui'ing away that attack when his mastery is about on par with Kazekage Rescue arc, where size was an issue for him. Kakuzu's attack is too big for that to be a realistic option.

 

[Shiroyru]

No, lmfao. That´s exactly how Weevil would act tbh. Unless you believe it was Law or Buggy

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Elder Lee Hung @EmperorKinyagi @MarineHQ @ZenZu Let this man cook. An Admiral got outsmarted by a Down Syndrome patient who can’t even tell the difference between a mirror and a picture

 

[Paragorn]

And they still refuse to accept Kizaru as top 1. Shows you how much hate is in this community.

For some reason, a guy who stands still with a serious face is aura farming, but a guy who fights without the slightest effort and seriousness is weak lol