Gonna say YTW and York probably arent teamed, also YTWs indignation against Fuji strikes me as townier than anything York is providing (mostly amounts to opportunistic voting patterns)
Seems like everyone who knows me better than you do has read me as town, but feel free to continue your nonsensical crusade instead of providing anything of value
 

MangoSenpai

Man of faith
MangoSenpai

Fujishiro
KWEH
Ratchet


York
Michelle
Yo Tan Wa
Alwaysmind


Polar Bear
The Orca
Alexis2282AE


Hayumi

Jaguark101
DkKoba



I'm struggling with the full rainbow list, there's simply way too many slots I have low confidence on.

I'll try to give a little more thought to my placements;

-While Ratchet has a toned down level of activity, I don't really sense much of an agenda from his posts, I don't have much reason to scum read him at this point in time. Especially considering the fact that I'm still around, he could've easily pushed an easy mislynch on me using my limited activity to his advantage.

-Fuji is also actively engaged with the thread contributing with good content, currently do not have any reasonable causes to suspect him

-Kweh gives off a strong towny vibe, while he may not be the biggest contributor in volume, I do not have any issues with the actual contents.

-Yo Tan Wa & AM are in the null category mostly due to the lack of content to work with. I will say that I find AM to be more trending towards town than what YTW is.

-York is similar to YTW and AM, I don't really feel like they're really trying to push any narrative, but I don't really catch much in the way of trying to solve either. I don't really have an easy time finding her town, which is mildly concerning.

-Now Michelle may be a controversial placement with all things considered, but I read through this Dayphase and got myself asking, what has she actually done this game?
I ISOed her and what I found didn't inspire me a whole lot; now Michelle has a really high baseline when it comes to the quality of posts, and this is still true now for this game. She has some unquestionably contributions to the thread, but be it the state of the game or otherwise, I don't feel inspired to confidently read them as town.

-Alexis like I just mentioned is within his town range, but he has been pulling one too many stunts which makes me start to cast a lot of doubt on his slot.
Even if you take away the mass tags and his "go back to wolf chat" farce, he has made a lot of fraudulent or baseless statements which serves no real purpose and only muddies the waters and distracts from actually solving.

-Hayumi has admittedly recently had a strong appearance with undeniably good and workable discussion to the thread, he has well thought out answers and I don't sense much tension in his posts either-- HOWEVER, the main reason why he is this low on the list is mostly based on voting patterns coupled by legacy reads.
Now I'll be the first to admit that this isn't hard evidence of anything and that it is a product from what can at best be classified as a flawed logic, but with a severe lack of a concrete lead to work with lands them here.


-Polar/ Orca, very little to go off of.
Orca was suspected by Ekko, Hime and Luka from legacy.
The only game related post he's really made was him claiming he was blocked, and that after DkKoba already made the claim he targeted him, making it impossible to determine the legitimacy of his claim.

-Jaguark, similar to Hayumi and the Arctic duo, there's not much to work with. He was suspected by Luka and Hime, who both coincidentally are dead. They were accused of having TMI in regards to Yoho being town, and outside of that he hasn't really said much of anything.

-DkKoba has been doing a good job responding to most of the questions asked, however he has been avoiding, to my knowledge, one question by Michelle and has thus far failed to provide a full reads list when asked.
I found his post regarding his read on Jaguark/ Hayumi to have a very curious choice of words, almost making it sound like he didn't really have a read of his own.
And to further that line of thinking, after having prodded his brain on the subjectmatter, he implied that he had his own reads and that he was just re-evaluating his reads based on the information available to him. Naturally I requested a reads list from him as from what he was saying he already had a good idea where he had people.. He has failed to deliver
 

MangoSenpai

Man of faith
I'll just mention in passing that I have a very hard time understanding how my role is a town role, I've not made any night actions thus far out of fear that it will impede town.
 
MangoSenpai

Fujishiro
KWEH
Ratchet


York
Michelle
Yo Tan Wa
Alwaysmind


Polar Bear
The Orca
Alexis2282AE


Hayumi

Jaguark101
DkKoba



I'm struggling with the full rainbow list, there's simply way too many slots I have low confidence on.

I'll try to give a little more thought to my placements;

-While Ratchet has a toned down level of activity, I don't really sense much of an agenda from his posts, I don't have much reason to scum read him at this point in time. Especially considering the fact that I'm still around, he could've easily pushed an easy mislynch on me using my limited activity to his advantage.

-Fuji is also actively engaged with the thread contributing with good content, currently do not have any reasonable causes to suspect him

-Kweh gives off a strong towny vibe, while he may not be the biggest contributor in volume, I do not have any issues with the actual contents.

-Yo Tan Wa & AM are in the null category mostly due to the lack of content to work with. I will say that I find AM to be more trending towards town than what YTW is.

-York is similar to YTW and AM, I don't really feel like they're really trying to push any narrative, but I don't really catch much in the way of trying to solve either. I don't really have an easy time finding her town, which is mildly concerning.

-Now Michelle may be a controversial placement with all things considered, but I read through this Dayphase and got myself asking, what has she actually done this game?
I ISOed her and what I found didn't inspire me a whole lot; now Michelle has a really high baseline when it comes to the quality of posts, and this is still true now for this game. She has some unquestionably contributions to the thread, but be it the state of the game or otherwise, I don't feel inspired to confidently read them as town.

-Alexis like I just mentioned is within his town range, but he has been pulling one too many stunts which makes me start to cast a lot of doubt on his slot.
Even if you take away the mass tags and his "go back to wolf chat" farce, he has made a lot of fraudulent or baseless statements which serves no real purpose and only muddies the waters and distracts from actually solving.

-Hayumi has admittedly recently had a strong appearance with undeniably good and workable discussion to the thread, he has well thought out answers and I don't sense much tension in his posts either-- HOWEVER, the main reason why he is this low on the list is mostly based on voting patterns coupled by legacy reads.
Now I'll be the first to admit that this isn't hard evidence of anything and that it is a product from what can at best be classified as a flawed logic, but with a severe lack of a concrete lead to work with lands them here.


-Polar/ Orca, very little to go off of.
Orca was suspected by Ekko, Hime and Luka from legacy.
The only game related post he's really made was him claiming he was blocked, and that after DkKoba already made the claim he targeted him, making it impossible to determine the legitimacy of his claim.

-Jaguark, similar to Hayumi and the Arctic duo, there's not much to work with. He was suspected by Luka and Hime, who both coincidentally are dead. They were accused of having TMI in regards to Yoho being town, and outside of that he hasn't really said much of anything.

-DkKoba has been doing a good job responding to most of the questions asked, however he has been avoiding, to my knowledge, one question by Michelle and has thus far failed to provide a full reads list when asked.
I found his post regarding his read on Jaguark/ Hayumi to have a very curious choice of words, almost making it sound like he didn't really have a read of his own.
And to further that line of thinking, after having prodded his brain on the subjectmatter, he implied that he had his own reads and that he was just re-evaluating his reads based on the information available to him. Naturally I requested a reads list from him as from what he was saying he already had a good idea where he had people.. He has failed to deliver
i ignore michelle's question because she generally just tunnels me regardless of my alignment. she has not ever interacted with me in good faith in a game regardless of my alignment. if you think a reads list is what separates someone from being town or not too, i think you have a lot to learn about mafia. this is you projecting onto me wholesale. I believe that you think this is how you yourself present yourself as towny but I'm not you.
 
the person who has an actual positive record of reading me as both alignments and decent amount of experience with me,, Luka, townread me fairly explicitly from early posts all of d1.
 
I still do not fucking understand why Hayumi's posting style makes people auto scumread them, this is literally my 2nd times playing with them and the first time I was able to snap read them town and even was surprised to find out later that apparently that wasn't such an easy read to make, and now here everytime I see hayumi posting its towny.
 

MangoSenpai

Man of faith
i ignore michelle's question because she generally just tunnels me regardless of my alignment. she has not ever interacted with me in good faith in a game regardless of my alignment. if you think a reads list is what separates someone from being town or not too, i think you have a lot to learn about mafia. this is you projecting onto me wholesale. I believe that you think this is how you yourself present yourself as towny but I'm not you.
The point being that you imply you have a good idea of where you have people on the spectrum, however you're withholding the list when asked about it. And now you're going on the defensive being called out about it.


A reads list is not the be all end all, in the slightest. My problem is just what you are telling me, and how you are unable to back up your words
 
The point being that you imply you have a good idea of where you have people on the spectrum, however you're withholding the list when asked about it. And now you're going on the defensive being called out about it.


A reads list is not the be all end all, in the slightest. My problem is just what you are telling me, and how you are unable to back up your words
ok i dont give a shit, projecitng what you think is towny for yourself is a nonstarter for me and I wont capitulate or dance for someone just because unless I have to
 

MangoSenpai

Man of faith
I still do not fucking understand why Hayumi's posting style makes people auto scumread them, this is literally my 2nd times playing with them and the first time I was able to snap read them town and even was surprised to find out later that apparently that wasn't such an easy read to make, and now here everytime I see hayumi posting its towny.
So either you didn't read my reasoning for Hayumis placement, or you're intentionally misinterpreting it.

I did say that it's not about the posting style, but rather the fact they've been named as a suspect by a whole 3 dead players, and furthermore his voting pattern is not doing him any favors
 
like you can literally read my individual posts and create a reads list from there, I have stated a PoE. I have stated people I strongly town. It is not rocket science, reads lists are fine when needed, and I only
 
misclicked there - And i only post them when I feel they are needed to convey my perspective on the overall game.

you're using some voodoo ass logic for hayumi i did read it, thats why I brought it up. i take responsibiliity for getting yoho killed n1, but d2 was a travesty with t/t/t wagons no one wanted to budge off of with 2 shitters spamming it up trying to kill town desperately
 
I'm a bit puzzled as to where I've been "bitching" and "whining" lol

You are crazy overreacting to my allegations
it is day fucking 3 and we have 0 mafia dead with 2 townies dying every night.

I guess I push away from ekko and hime d2 despite them being the only 2 visibly vialbe wagons outside of one on MYSELF because I'm just trying to ball even harder?
 

MangoSenpai

Man of faith
says im town, this is pure yap
So I'm really curious to hear from you how is you blowing up on me laying out the series of events that transpired going to help your case or dispell any suspicions?

As for the Michelle part, ok, sure - but you never adressed it, you ignored it. So you are fully aware of the question existing.

And OK, maybe you missed my request for a reads list - what are you expecting to achieve by actually throwing a tantrum in response?
 
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