Character Discussion The Brat of Hachinosu: Dracule Mihawk. Shakky's Love Sickness - NTRayleigh - Toxic Kuja Feminism - Shanks Stole Mihawk's Dad - Zoro Learns Kamusari

CoC: Color of Clowns

Super Sulong Wanda in Wano Act 4
#22
If Mihawk really is the son of Shakky and Rayleigh, is his eyes the genetic trait of a male Kuja being born outside of their Island, and Male Kujas simply being associated with Hawks instead of snakes, maybe you can link this to freedom too of being born outside in the open world.

But then if Luffy is a Kuja as well, why doesn't he have hawkeyes? was he born on amazon lily? only females could be born there but perhaps Luffy overrides this rule, maybe the Kuja also have some form of prophecy of a male being born and him being some kind of saviour.

Does Mihawk actually have some type of Hawk fruit, where the only part of his body he transforms is his eyes, for greater sight?

We have to speculate on this because kid Mihawk in that drawing doesn't have hawkeyes either. Yet there are instances where s-hawk eyes are drawn in a similar manner as well as double ringed eyes, so it could just be mere chance.

And then there is also the question of Mihawk's decorum, he acts like he was born in high status despite being taken on an island full of pirates.

Shanks acts and dresses like a bum as a celestial, Mihawk acts all refined as a commoner, although I guess he could count as Kuja royalty but even then when it comes to celestials anyone else is trash to be used.

Was Mihawk kidnapped as well by the WG along with Shakky and then raised as a celestial? where Shanks was a celestial raised by pirates? both separated from their families?

But then which celestial chose to raise Mihawk? if Rayleigh played a sort of father figure to Shanks then maybe Shanks's mom was the mother figure to Mihawk?

They could have been raised by each-others parents.

I'm just trying to wrap my head around it, Shakky maybe met Shanks's mother in captivity and then thought Mihawk would be safer around the walls of celestials, after realising that even rocks protection wasn't enough.

But then Mihawk walked away from his adoptive family? maybe it wasn't garlings family, but either way perhaps Mihawk grew up in that environment and learned swordsmanship with shamrock for a time.

How did he get his hands on Yoru, was he simply the best student and was handed it via winning a duelling competition? Maybe he got it from his adoptive family and it was one of their family treasures, from a line of one of the 20 kings.

Maybe after Rogers death, Mihawk still had ties to celestials and no issues with his family there and he wasn't betrayed just yet?

And so when Shanks went to visit, to see what his birth right had to offer, that's when he first met Mihawk? maybe when he met Shanks, and saw his fallout with his family, it's what made Mihawk realise he wanted to distance himself from celestials as well?

Or can he literally just go back anytime he wants but chooses not to.

lots of questions.
My biggest question with Mihawk right now is how he developed the Hawk Eyes. I'm thinking it's a CoO thing, but I'm not sure.

Really interested in the genetic profile of male Kuja, since if Mihawk is one, he's the only one we've definitively seen.

I'm still on board with Croco-Mom, I think Tritoma DID love Dragon and die from it, though. I agree with what Tekking and others have said, tho: I don't think Luffy's Mom will be that important to Luffy, but very important to Dragon. Dadan is Luffy's Mom and his Dad is Shanks (Benn Beckman is a 2nd Mom, lol).

I'm wondering if Mihawk was on God Valley to rescue Shakky, but was kidnapped by the WG to become a God's Knight/Soldier.

I think Imu Domi Reveri'd the entirety of God Valley: explains why the Celestial Dragons won with such a pathetic force compared to Rocks/Roger, why Garp allied with Roger, and fits well narratively since the Rocks' Pirates entire theme is infighting: Domi Reversi would be the Rocks Pirates finally literally killing each other.

Mihawk getting Domi Reversi'd, then ending up with the Celstial Dragons is very interesting.

Yoru's also fascinating. I think Mihawk forged Yoru personally with help, but, that's just a theory.

Also think Momo will learn to forge Seastone Blades, and make Seastone Armaments for the Crew.

Crazy we haven't seen a Seastone Sword yet, fucking Swordmen are going to get ANOTHER power up in this series, sheesh.
 
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CoC: Color of Clowns

Super Sulong Wanda in Wano Act 4
#24
The truth in mihawks past lies in the inverse of zoros most likely
Used to think this, now I think it's more likely Mihawk is an inverse of Shanks. Which is why I think Mihawk was raised on Hachinosu:

Shanks was raised by the Roger Pirates, Mihawk was raised by the Rocks Pirates.

Totally explains why Mihawk is a loner who doesn't trust anyone, he grew up on fucking Hachinosu around pirates who all hated each other's guts.

Rayleigh is Zoro's parallel, IMO. Look at Hiyori/Shakky, same shit.
 
#28
My biggest question with Mihawk right now is how he developed the Hawk Eyes. I'm thinking it's a CoO thing, but I'm not sure.

Really interested in the genetic profile of male Kuja, since if Mihawk is one, he's the only one we've definitively seen.

I'm still on board with Croco-Mom, I think Tritoma DID love Dragon and die from it, though. I agree with what Tekking and others have said, tho: I don't think Luffy's Mom will be that important to Luffy, but very important to Dragon. Dadan is Luffy's Mom and his Dad is Shanks (Benn Beckman is a 2nd Mom, lol).

I'm wondering if Mihawk was on God Valley to rescue Shakky, but was kidnapped by the WG to become a God's Knight/Soldier.

I think Imu Domi Reveri'd the entirety of God Valley: explains why the Celestial Dragons won with such a pathetic force compared to Rocks/Roger, why Garp allied with Roger, and fits well narratively since the Rocks' Pirates entire theme is infighting: Domi Reversi would be the Rocks Pirates finally literally killing each other.

Mihawk getting Domi Reversi'd, then ending up with the Celstial Dragons is very interesting.

Yoru's also fascinating. I think Mihawk forged Yoru personally with help, but, that's just a theory.

Also think Momo will learn to forge Seastone Blades, and make Seastone Armaments for the Crew.

Crazy we haven't seen a Seastone Sword yet, fucking Swordmen are going to get ANOTHER power up in this series, sheesh.
Ever since I saw Wmoker's Seastone-tipped Jitte, I have wanted to see more seastone weapons in the story. Conceptually it is so freaking cool. If any characters from the SHs should get seastone it should be Franky and Usopp. Franky can brawl and grapple, and Usopp can have seastone ammunition.

The crux of it is simple though... seastone is godly OP in the verse against any DF user. Oda will only pull such a power up out in the final arc.
 
#30
44 Years Ago: Shakky winks at Rayleigh. Gloriosa, the Empress of the Kuja, develops Love Sickness for Roger and his massive CoC
43 Years Ago: Mihawk is born
42 Years Ago: Shakky arrives on Hachinosu, and asks the Pirates there to protect her.

Isn't that odd? That a woman... who could return to Amazon Lily... went to an island full of murderous perverts for protection, instead?

To begin with, the Marines should feel disgusted that a fucking hive of evil pirates is less likely to rape a woman as beautiful as Shakky than the Celestial Dragons. Rocks was right, why the fuck are you a Marine, Garp? God.

Fun fact: Love Sickness occurs in Kuja EMPRESSES. Shakky could not get Love Sickness, until she became the Kuja Empress, and by default, Captain of the Kuja Pirates. Shakky could only gain Love Sickness, IF Gloriosa retired from her position. Which, Gloriosa did, to chase Roger... o7s in the Chat for Elder Nyon. Chick tried to get Roger and shipped Shakky straight to Rayleigh.

Roger kept chasing after the Kuja to get Shakky... and, guess what? Shakky got LOVESICK for Rayleigh.



Rayleigh was stuck between a Roger and a Soft Place:
-If Rayleigh doesn't bank Shakky, she dies
-If Rayleigh bangs Shakky, he's cucking his Captain

Rayleigh, being the GOAT he is, told Shakky, "Listen... I like you, too, and we can make love. BUT, Roger can never find out, and, if you get pregnant, you have to go to Amazon Lily, and raise the child there. I know you Kuja give birth to only women, and there's NO WAY I can raise a child on board this ship, let alone yours."

And then came the second problem:



"Now and then, one of the women ventures to the outer oceans and returns with a baby in her belly. For some mysterious reason, only female children are born here."

Let me highlight a part of this:

"Only female children are born HERE"
So... what if the kid isn't born on Amazon Lily? They could be male... right?


If the child was female, Shakky could have easily returned to Amazon Lily. Shakky DID NOT flee the Kuja the way Gloriosa did: we've seen her return to Amazon Lily with Rayleigh, and the Kuja were kind to her when sending her off.

But, the child wasn't female: they were male, and could not be raised on Amazon Lily. And this blew everything up.

A: The WG can now kidnap this kid to get to Shakky.
B: Pirates who want Shakky can now kidnap the kid to get Shakky.
C: Shakky has to hide the child from Roger, meaning she has to go somewhere Roger won't chase her



Shakky: "You'll protect me, right?"

Isn't in interesting... that the suitcase Shakky is carrying... is the perfect size for a baby?

If you look at Mihawk's child portrait Oda drew, Mihawk's clothes, hair, and sword look to be in good condition. He doesn't look poor/starving, just scuffed up from fighitng, and his holding his sword in a challenging stance.

Like with Rebecca and Kyros, everyone on Hachinosu who knew shit, knew that Mihawk was Shakky's kid; they just didn't know who the father was.

Mihawk, being... Mihawk, went around picking sword fights while growing up on Hachinosu. He got in some fights, but people knew he was Shakky's kid, and no one could serious fight back, or Shakky/Shakky's Army of Simps would gut them alive.

Rayleigh continued to sail with the Roger Pirates, either not knowing about Mihawk, or actively covering his role as his father up.

Mihawk was born 43 years ago
Roger's Crew arrived on Laugh Tale 25 years ago

By the time Rayleigh left the Roger Pirates, Mihawk was an 18-year-old man... with one goal...

Kill the Rat who stole his father from him:



Shanks was raised from the age of 1-years-old to 14-years-old by the Roger Pirates.

Mihawk hates Rayleigh the way Ace hated Roger: but, unlike Ace, Mihawk had a clear target: Shanks.

And then, Mihawk found out, that not only did Shanks steal his father, Rayleigh: Shanks was actually a Celestial Dragon, while Mihawk had grown up watching Pirates simp for his Mom on an island full of crazy ass Pirate gooners.

This led to the infamous duel between Mihawk and Shanks that Newgate described:

Eventually, Mihawk came to view Shanks as a Rival/friend, and his bloodlust is gone. However, no one has filled the gap Shanks left; no one else has that level of swordsmanship.

So, what I'm saying, is Zoro's going to get Kamusari by the end of the series, YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Kamusari is translated roughly as "Divine Avoidance", which fits Zoro, who has openly stated he doesn't believe in God, and is generally referred to as a Demon.



Zoro defeating Mihawk with a move he leeched from Roger/Shanks will break the entire fanbase, and we'll all be put in a giant asylum

Hope ya'll have a good Wednesday, or whatever it is wherever you are
Actually Roger cucked Rayleigh and Mihawk is Aces half brother
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Super Sulong Wanda in Wano Act 4
#33

Roger's blood type: S
:kuzanshut:
I really don't care about stuff like this after Oda straight up changed Caesar's age, honestly.
Ever since I saw Wmoker's Seastone-tipped Jitte, I have wanted to see more seastone weapons in the story. Conceptually it is so freaking cool. If any characters from the SHs should get seastone it should be Franky and Usopp. Franky can brawl and grapple, and Usopp can have seastone ammunition.

The crux of it is simple though... seastone is godly OP in the verse against any DF user. Oda will only pull such a power up out in the final arc.
I want all of them to get Seastone stuff from Momo.

IMO, this is how Wano gets strong: Seastone/Haki.

Another reason why I think Teach wants Wano; the Marines gaining Seastone production is fucking HORRIBLE for the Blackbeard Pirates, they're all Fruit users.

Franky in a Seastone Franky Shogun... Usopp with Seastone ammunition... oooooooooooooooh.

Yeah, Seastone is busted. It's going to have to be used sparingly.
 
#34
I really don't care about stuff like this after Oda straight up changed Caesar's age, honestly.

I want all of them to get Seastone stuff from Momo.

IMO, this is how Wano gets strong: Seastone/Haki.

Another reason why I think Teach wants Wano; the Marines gaining Seastone production is fucking HORRIBLE for the Blackbeard Pirates, they're all Fruit users.

Franky in a Seastone Franky Shogun... Usopp with Seastone ammunition... oooooooooooooooh.

Yeah, Seastone is busted. It's going to have to be used sparingly.
Usopp could pull off some amazing trickery. Imagine him disguising seastone pellets as harmless ammunition. It would bypass certain hakis because imagine you see a ketchup star coming alongside other attacks, you must take one, you take the ketchup star, it's actually a disguised seastone pellet - fuck.

Of course, it's Oda, so our boy will continue being BUmsopp. :josad:
 
#40
This idea that Shakky could not raise Mihawk because he is a man if he was her son and thus "fled" to Hachinosu is stupid from top to bottom. The Kuja as a tribe to not have a deep cultural loathing against anything with a penis okay?

Rayleigh was fine to go to the island in the present day, and Luffy is a straight up ally due to Hancocks love for him / the other Amazonians liking him too. If Shakky as empress got pregnant from Rayleigh and gave birth to Mihawk?

She could just say "this is my son, I am Empress, deal with it" and her Amazonians would do as they are told. The Kuja respect beauty aka strength the most, and Shakky straight up overshadowed her own captain and Empress. If they accept some random outside nobody man like Luffy, you can be damn sure if their Empress wanted her own son on the island Shakky would have gotten her will.

The idea that Mihawk had to be some dirty secret and she had to smuggle him inside a briefcase or some shit to Pirate island is nonsense. If Shakky got pregnant with Mihawk by Rayleigh as people suggest? None of her actions make any sense.
 
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