Controversial Is The World Government A Good System?

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
#1
Its been a while since i asked the masses a question, was busy doing irl stuff but here's the question I want to

Present to the class

Is the world government a good system?

Now don't be confused i'm not asking if its ran by good people or if the world government is good or evil

I want to know is the system itself a good system?

I personally think yes, without them pirates would be much more rampant, there'd be a lot more wars between countries
 

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
#5
If the system allows hundreds to thousands of people to be kidnapped, enslaved, raped, tortured, starved etc for the lols then it's pretty bad. Nothing we haven't seen in real life though :seriously:
You have a point but its not the system that allows that its the people running the system that allows it to happen, for example tho america has been a democratic system since basically the beginning, how the country is ran and perceived by the rest of the world is 100% dependent on whose running it at that moment in history. So while yes the current powers that be does allow slavery and all other kinds of horrid acts, thats not the fault of the system, thats the fault of the ones in charge of it a person with good intentions wouldn't allow such things to happen while still maintaining the world governments power

Which is why dragon stated his beef isnt with the world government itself but the celestials who benefit from it and twist it to fit their selfish needs and desires

So while yes it's ran by bad people I don't think its an inherently bad system, yes it has its flaws but name me one government/legal system that isn't flawed in some way
 
#6
Naah, it will fucked up.
  • Monarchs are kind of the worst.
    • Slavery will always be present.
  • Power isn't divided properly.
    • Marines Report to WG (Police and stuff basically)
    • Eniess Lobby report to WG (Law)
    • Rulers/Leaders/Monarchs too.
    • That's too much Concentrated power.
  • Heavenly tributes, only to exist peacefully lol.
 
#7
You have a point but its not the system that allows that its the people running the system that allows it to happen, for example tho america has been a democratic system since basically the beginning, how the country is ran and perceived by the rest of the world is 100% dependent on whose running it at that moment in history. So while yes the current powers that be does allow slavery and all other kinds of horrid acts, thats not the fault of the system, thats the fault of the ones in charge of it a person with good intentions wouldn't allow such things to happen while still maintaining the world governments power

Which is why dragon stated his beef isnt with the world government itself but the celestials who benefit from it and twist it to fit their selfish needs and desires

So while yes it's ran by bad people I don't think its an inherently bad system, yes it has its flaws but name me one government/legal system that isn't flawed in some way
To be honest it's definitely a nice idea to have one government that spans across the world and what not but I don't think it can ever work in reality. Would be too complicated plus a lot of the time politics attract horrible people as well, I know you said it's not about the people running it but there aren't many good politicians at all and I do think that's a factor here.
But if it did hypothetically have good reasonable people behind it then it might work.
 
#8
Depends on which metric you want to measure it. For those in control it has been a pretty great system to rule over most of the world for at least 800 years. On corruption and evilness it is in a class of its own but we have seen similar or worse in the real world.
 
#9
In theory, yes, the world government is a good system to keep pirates and other criminals in the check and could offer aid to islands/kingdoms who don't have the resources while giving them a voice on the world stage. In execution, it's a complete fucking disaster and does significantly more harm to the average citizen than the pirates with 100x the resources to maximize suffering.

To the average citizen of the One Piece world, the WG is literally just another monarchy with the celestial dragon system and heavenly tributes. You could make a legitimate argument that living in pirate Emperor territory (even under someone as deranged as Big Mom) would be preferable to living in WG territory.
 
#10
The fact alone that unaffiliated nations have no legal rights and can be enslaved at any given moment already shows how bad the system is. Even if you were to remove Imu and make the empty throne actually empty, this wouldn't change. Additionally ,as long as a global monarchy like the CDs exist they are bound to go corrupt and spoiled. It's likely the ancestors of the CDs were not as rotten as they are today. The system enabled this.
So nope,I'd say the WG system itself is a problem.
 
#13
When democracy works correctly and isn’t ran by demons, isn’t protecting slave traders, and isn’t erasing history, sure

The World Government is a good idea in principal, but the WG in the manga is comically corrupt and evil.
I mean it isn't even good as an authoritarian system.

#1 thing an authoritarian state should be good at is law enforcement. Order. Meanwhile piracy in this world is somewhere between a dedicated hobby and a regular 9-5 job. This inability to deal with this problem has led to entire pirate nations.

Impel Down is the prime example of decadent WG incompetence. Why have a whole arse prison dedicated to pointlessly torturing pirates for life when you have no problem executing violent criminals? At least execute the Level 6 hyper criminals that are supposedly so heinous that they need their names scrubbed from all historical records.

WG is a dumb arse system by anybody's metric. Lol.
 
#14
I mean it isn't even good as an authoritarian system.

#1 thing an authoritarian state should be good at is law enforcement. Order. Meanwhile piracy in this world is somewhere between a dedicated hobby and a regular 9-5 job. This inability to deal with this problem has led to entire pirate nations.

Impel Down is the prime example of decadent WG incompetence. Why have a whole arse prison dedicated to pointlessly torturing pirates for life when you have no problem executing violent criminals? At least execute the Level 6 hyper criminals that are supposedly so heinous that they need their names scrubbed from all historical records.

WG is a dumb arse system by anybody's metric. Lol.
Oda's dumbassery hurts the WG
They don't execute them because Oda needs them.
There is 0 problem with killing schoolars who read a book you don't like but hanging a top 3 strongest pirate of his era in Shiki?
What are you? Stupid? 🙄
He should escape for the movie.
Crocodile? No he's cool i need him.
Doffy? Then who gives a cool monologue whenever a big thing happens?
 
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#15
I mean it isn't even good as an authoritarian system.

#1 thing an authoritarian state should be good at is law enforcement. Order. Meanwhile piracy in this world is somewhere between a dedicated hobby and a regular 9-5 job. This inability to deal with this problem has led to entire pirate nations.

Impel Down is the prime example of decadent WG incompetence. Why have a whole arse prison dedicated to pointlessly torturing pirates for life when you have no problem executing violent criminals? At least execute the Level 6 hyper criminals that are supposedly so heinous that they need their names scrubbed from all historical records.

WG is a dumb arse system by anybody's metric. Lol.
Some of those pirate nations have better internal order than the WG
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Impel Down is the prime example of decadent WG incompetence. Why have a whole arse prison dedicated to pointlessly torturing pirates for life when you have no problem executing violent criminals? At least execute the Level 6 hyper criminals that are supposedly so heinous that they need their names scrubbed from all historical records.
Are IRL nations doing this? Nope, and same results
WG is ultimately based on the real world
 
#16
No it isn't, however you look at it, it is bad.
How can one or a group of people behind desks decide for what should happen thousands of kilometers away ? What do they know about traditions, and how people want to live ? How is this any different from tyranny ?
 
#18
It's an ultra violent, ultra fascist, genocidal regime that is continuously engaged in crimes against humanity, chattel slavery, torture, book burning, summary executions and violent repression in all forms, and it does so while extracting heavy tributes that leave nations destitute and teetering.

It's a smashing success. :suresure:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#19
I mean it isn't even good as an authoritarian system.

#1 thing an authoritarian state should be good at is law enforcement. Order. Meanwhile piracy in this world is somewhere between a dedicated hobby and a regular 9-5 job. This inability to deal with this problem has led to entire pirate nations.

Impel Down is the prime example of decadent WG incompetence. Why have a whole arse prison dedicated to pointlessly torturing pirates for life when you have no problem executing violent criminals? At least execute the Level 6 hyper criminals that are supposedly so heinous that they need their names scrubbed from all historical records.

WG is a dumb arse system by anybody's metric. Lol.
That’s because the WG is incompetent, this isn’t an inherent flaw in a world democracy lol.

A true ideal democracy is probably a better idea in principal than an ideal authoritarian state. Probably.
 
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