Future Events Prediction: Admiral Jiaga Valiantly Sacrificed Himself To Save The Reverie Kings (Karasu Vs Fujitora 2.0)
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Problem is not really Xebec being strong enough to do It, but the (clear imho) super weird, and so hinting, dynamic and narration.
As said, everything was shown but that.
Even though It was said again and again, even in Xebec's own introduction, that he had killed an Admiral. Also the king kidnapping business didn't go anywhere.
Imho, this Admiral was probably related to Akainu and the dynamic was as usual different from an all out fight, which there wasn't even just for the lack of effects on Marijoa.
As said, everything was shown but that.
Even though It was said again and again, even in Xebec's own introduction, that he had killed an Admiral. Also the king kidnapping business didn't go anywhere.
Imho, this Admiral was probably related to Akainu and the dynamic was as usual different from an all out fight, which there wasn't even just for the lack of effects on Marijoa.
Yeah the lack of context is a strong sign that Oda either intends for this to be an important death or that he just plans on sidelining Admiral Scissors....personally can't see it being the latter.
IMO it's probably like Luffy's WSG or Whitebeard's Island Breaker punch in MF, the Admiral might've got distracted and gave Rocks an opening during their fight that allowed him to land a single critical hit.
That would explain why Rocks was only bruised up and still had enough gas in his tank to match Harald.
Also do you think Scissors has any chance of being related to Koby instead of Akainu? I feel like Oda's been pushing a Koby/BB connection a lot since Hachinosu and IMO Koby helping avenge his relative's death is likely.
Actually now that I think about it even Kuzan's a possibility in that regard, he might have trained with Garp to avenge his Admiral relative, fought for the FA post so he could gain authority to focus on BB, and infiltrated BB's crew for vengeance.
Because I feel if it was Akainu then he and BB would have more of a connection, as it is they're depicted more as parallels. But still I could see it working out that way.
IMO it's probably like Luffy's WSG or Whitebeard's Island Breaker punch in MF, the Admiral might've got distracted and gave Rocks an opening during their fight that allowed him to land a single critical hit.
That would explain why Rocks was only bruised up and still had enough gas in his tank to match Harald.
Also do you think Scissors has any chance of being related to Koby instead of Akainu? I feel like Oda's been pushing a Koby/BB connection a lot since Hachinosu and IMO Koby helping avenge his relative's death is likely.
Actually now that I think about it even Kuzan's a possibility in that regard, he might have trained with Garp to avenge his Admiral relative, fought for the FA post so he could gain authority to focus on BB, and infiltrated BB's crew for vengeance.
Because I feel if it was Akainu then he and BB would have more of a connection, as it is they're depicted more as parallels. But still I could see it working out that way.
Nope
But I can see the constipated artstyle very well
I put that post in my signature for a reason. Whenever some of y.all posts that panel of the guy surrounded by flying body parts or something similar I remember that post😂😂
Kingdom artstyle looks like if a middle schooler who's drawing in his free time just discovered what shading is and thinks 'oh cool I'll just use shading on everything now' and applies it everywhere but with zero understanding of lighting and perspective
that's just his normal face
But I can see the constipated artstyle very well
I put that post in my signature for a reason. Whenever some of y.all posts that panel of the guy surrounded by flying body parts or something similar I remember that post😂😂
Kingdom artstyle looks like if a middle schooler who's drawing in his free time just discovered what shading is and thinks 'oh cool I'll just use shading on everything now' and applies it everywhere but with zero understanding of lighting and perspective
that's just his normal face
Whenever I have a longer conversation with you @Elder Lee Hung you're gaslighting like crazy and defending you Chinese imperialism manga like it's your bible
Holy shit
Holy shit
I didn’t gaslight you at any point. You’re over here criticizing a series you have never read while simultaneously stating that you believe it would be stupid to criticize a series you have never read. These are your words not mine
I have never seen any reader of Kingdon defend China at any point lol. The only people I’ve seen who say Kingdom is Chinese propaganda is dipshits like you who have never read the series.
I have never seen any reader of Kingdon defend China at any point lol. The only people I’ve seen who say Kingdom is Chinese propaganda is dipshits like you who have never read the series.
I didn’t gaslight you at any point. You’re over here criticizing a series you have never read while simultaneously stating that you believe it would be stupid to criticize a series you have never read. These are your words not mine
I have never seen any reader of Kingdon defend China at any point lol. The only people I’ve seen who say Kingdom is Chinese propaganda is dipshits like you who have never read the series.
I have never seen any reader of Kingdon defend China at any point lol. The only people I’ve seen who say Kingdom is Chinese propaganda is dipshits like you who have never read the series.
I agree on the dynamic. I also expect some hostage plot and so Xebec killing the Admiral "quickly" thanks to the usual cheapshot after which the Admiral was seriously wounded.
Not the he could have not, but surely not quickly and not without some major devastation, and possibly the Gorosei/HK getting in the way too.
About who he might we related with, Akainu feels the more natural date wise: Akainu is 55, the Admiral died 56 years ago --> It fits.
Kuzan though is too young. He is 49, so he cannot be the son of this unnamed Admiral. Sure, he coulde be his nephiew, but Oda usually goes for the direct bloodline route.
Also, if we go by the nephiew assumption, he could be bascially anybody's uncle tbh. Not impossible anyway.
Koby could be his grandkind, sure. I would have expected someone mentioning this, but Oda has done far worse things.
I agree though that even if it fits date wise, Akainu feels pretty random. There Is not really a plot connection outside
of giving Akainu "a father", which I am not really a fan of.
Not the he could have not, but surely not quickly and not without some major devastation, and possibly the Gorosei/HK getting in the way too.
About who he might we related with, Akainu feels the more natural date wise: Akainu is 55, the Admiral died 56 years ago --> It fits.
Kuzan though is too young. He is 49, so he cannot be the son of this unnamed Admiral. Sure, he coulde be his nephiew, but Oda usually goes for the direct bloodline route.
Also, if we go by the nephiew assumption, he could be bascially anybody's uncle tbh. Not impossible anyway.
Koby could be his grandkind, sure. I would have expected someone mentioning this, but Oda has done far worse things.
I agree though that even if it fits date wise, Akainu feels pretty random. There Is not really a plot connection outside
of giving Akainu "a father", which I am not really a fan of.
Kingdom's art doesn't look good out of context imo
One panel or two doesn't do it justice since it looks different to most other mangas. It takes getting used to. Read some chapters and you'll start to appreciate it heavily. The way he portrays the emotion, armies fighting, intense duels etc.. is unmatched. You just are used to these Shonen art styles that all look the same.
That one phrase is enough to stop the discussion lmao
can't wait for "Tou (blonde) taking Shintei is an allegory for European colonization" if they read the series.
One panel or two doesn't do it justice since it looks different to most other mangas. It takes getting used to. Read some chapters and you'll start to appreciate it heavily. The way he portrays the emotion, armies fighting, intense duels etc.. is unmatched. You just are used to these Shonen art styles that all look the same.
That one phrase is enough to stop the discussion lmao
can't wait for "Tou (blonde) taking Shintei is an allegory for European colonization" if they read the series.
Luffy's objective was never to beat Kizaru but to stall him 
Also Luffy alone was not responsible for waido's defeat. It was group effort
Also Luffy alone was not responsible for waido's defeat. It was group effort
Art is subjective but you are objectively stupid to think Kingdom is ugly. Legit if you think Kingdom is ugly you are probably a @ZenZu alt
