Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

[Bil02]

Never understood the Rox hype. Only thing that will save him is a world class DF.

You also didn't believe Rocks and Harald Clash meant they were equals despite Rocks' opinion of Harald indicating otherwise.
Harald is just that guy, don't know how Roger and WB develop after this but if they never surpass Rocks,Harald is above them too.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

This would unironically fit

I believe Teach is supposed to be Somali

Somalis don't name their kids Mashallah.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Rocks no longer simps for Shakky

Rocks no longer friends with Harald

The betrayal of Xebec is what starts off Harald's end of life tragedy. It's only getting worse from here. He'll have to rip his horns out next, betrayed by the wg and then be killed by his own son.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Maybe not stronger than Shanks.

I’m not buying the shanks > all yonko until he fights someone. As of now he still seems like he’s set up to lose to Blackbeard who’ll be at best Rox level.

 

[D. Plant]

I swear to fuck if my God Valley = Uranus theory is actually right again after 2 years of thinking it was over lmao

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/god-valley-is-the-ancient-weapon-uranus.43674/

Went from believing it, to "oh it was just a normal island with some treasure taken from Pirate Island", now back to Garling finding the island interesting for fucking Imu of all people.

Think about it:

- The island's inhabitants need to be wiped out under the guise that there can be no witnesses
- The island is erased from Maps, yet is never stated to be destroyed
- We KNOW Uranus was likely not used by the WG before Vegapunk created the Mother Flame because Imu and the Gorosei talk about testing the weapon with Lulusia
- Uranus (presumably) is island sized, possibly even bigger than Lulusia
- On top of this, God Valley itself even looks like a giant railgun of all things.


Im ready to be wrong but man if this does not make sense lol.

I have.....no comment about Kozuki Moria lmao but glad Oda touched on Blackbeard and Shanks/Shamrock this chapter too

Interesting theory, all of the points make sense.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Yet another instance of Kaido the retard just being a hermit, looks like Harald is above everyone in Kaido’s top 5 but Xebec lmfao

Also more Kaido x Moriah rivalry

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I’m not buying the shanks > all yonko until he fights someone. As of now he still seems like he’s set up to lose to Blackbeard who’ll be at best Rox level.

him giving up his destiny to surpass roger and being confirmed below mihawk makes me think he's definitely just as strong as the other yonko and not a special case

 

[Zoinks52]

The betrayal of Xebec is what starts off Harald's end of life tragedy. It's only getting worse from here. He'll have to rip his horns out next, betrayed by the wg and then be killed by his own son.

Hmm

Perhaps Harald's story will teach a lesson to keep your friends close and not try too much to deny your true nature?

This seems in keeping with the Elbaph culture war thingy with the giants being too peaceful and anti war.

 

[gz89]

I don’t. New gen is the one that will surpass the old gen.

Do you think Mihawk/Shanks/Akainu would lose to Sengoku,Shiki,Ray etc ?

I'm pretty sure they are stronger than them and since there is not a huge gap between Sengoku,Shiki,Ray and Roger/Garp middle gen's top dogs are at least on par with old gen's top dogs.

 

[Fujishiro]

Imu vs Harald is what diff btw.

 

[DarkWitch]

Kozuki Oden dancing like a moron vs Kozuki Moria fighting against Kaido.

 

[Wuuuke]

him giving up his destiny to surpass roger and being confirmed below mihawk makes me think he's definitely just as strong as the other yonko and not a special case

Both can be true

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I do believe that Harald would have changed his mind if Rocks's crew showed fidelity when he asked them " Why do you follow Rocks " but he probably made up his mind after that day, when they just answered that they didn't care about him and his plan, Rocks was alone before he even started.

Their big divide was Harald wanted to negotiate with the World Government, and Rocks wanted to destroy them.

Judging by how Harald ended up, he should have listened to Rocks more.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Oda baiting with Shakky was nasty ngl

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

This would unironically fit

I believe Teach is supposed to be Somali

Yeah Oda said it. Somalia is in Africa and Oda said Usopp would be from a unspecified part of Africa...

Usopp is relates to Blackbeard I'm certain of it. Amongst other reasons to be.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Both can be true

I just doubt it

 

[Chrono]

Its gg for Admiraltards. Im happy I left when I had the chance. This is what happens when you accept Lanji into your fanbase.

 

[Fujishiro]

Do you think Mihawk/Shanks/Akainu would lose to Sengoku,Shiki,Ray etc ?

I'm pretty sure they are stronger than them and since there is not a huge gap between Sengoku,Shiki,Ray and Roger/Garp middle gen's top dogs are at least on par with old gen's top dogs.

On par is fine by me yeah, I think Akainu,Shanks and Mihawk are comparable to Roger and Garp and Xebec.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Guilty as charged

Mink community is not the same as Conejo community right?

On par
We'll see if he's stronger once the Xebeck v Roger fight happens

Stronger. Xebec was stronger than these four

Depends if Xebec got some huge powerup after his battle against Harald and we see the glimps in God valley.
Either that or Harald is legit Xebec lvl and above the other guys.
Because right now, Xebec and Harald are equals...

 

[Chrono]

Yonko > Admiral. Admirals arent top tier anymore. The only thing they have going for them is the Marineford potrayal....and again they only did impressive due to matchup.