Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

All out Akainu and Aokiji might honestly be Imu level+ based on environmental damage scaling

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Logia awakening reveal after god valley it’s over

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

I still can’t cope that a no named guy is as strong as the great Rocks captain of the titanic rocks pirates, father of BB, challenger of Imu, rival of Roger

WB/Roger - Shanks/Mihawk are all extremely important and established characters

Harald appeared out of the blue

Even Oden was more important lore wise and he has the courtesy of dying before Kaido reached his peak and he still wasnt as strong as WB/Roger etc

Makes the world richer and bigger imo, same for new Admiral characters during the timeskip.
And Harald admittedly as an individual character had no buildup, Harald the king of giants as legendary race has been built up since Little Garden.

 

[Fujishiro]

God Valley better look very destroyed or else we are going to have a discussion

DC doesnt mean shit mate, its fodder control. Enel had insane DC and was clogged by Luffy.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

God Valley better look very destroyed or else we are going to have a discussion

GV doesnt even exist anymore

Xebec wiped out an island

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Anyone else feel like all of Moriah’s ties to God Valley and Wano are kind of just random af

like why tf is Oda tying so much lore to that bum for no reason

Because the warlords are the most lore centric group in the manga.

 

[Hedfi]

Who's kozuki Moria? Is he an SBS character? I don't remember him in the manga.

 

[WkainuWheWoat]

its funny how Shanks fans tried to jump on the idea that Shanks is not related to Garling because of bad wording from Pew. we all know why, these guys know that there is a big chance of Mihawk being related to "someone". so they hate the Idea of Shanks being the son of a underling

guys its ok Shanks is strong too, just not on Mihawks lvl. its better to accept it now instead of being mad for the next 2-3 years.

 

[BestGen]

Moria thriller bark 2.0
Harald? > oars
Oden?> ryuma
Whitebeard? Kaido? Ochoku? Other rocks pirates

Moria alone could be what makes cross guild more powerful if they use him right

SPIT

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

LMAO The one who doesn't want to fight, didn't even fight anyone and wants peace is pretty much equal to Rocks, yet people still undermined Mihawk who only wants peace

 

[Zoinks52]

I hate this mental nerf bs, only in OP its a thing lol. These people should hire therapists.

Lol

But I don't quite agree, I mean even irl you'd at least subconciously shy from harming a friend even if you had to.

And in OP there's an entire power system based on willpower, we've been seeing mental nerfs since Water 7.

And trust me, if it wasn't mental nerfs it'd be some other BS like "Ki control" or " He lives in a world of cardboard and always holds back in even in dire situations for some reason".

 

[Yoho]

Anyone else feel like all of Moriah’s ties to God Valley and Wano are kind of just random af

like why tf is Oda tying so much lore to that bum for no reason

To Wano, not really we knew he had been there before cause he grave robbed ryuma, and as we saw during Wano that place isnt exactly easy to acess

 

[Fujishiro]

GV doesnt even exist anymore

Xebec wiped out an island

Willing to bet an ancient weapon was used or some shit.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I still can’t cope that a no named guy is as strong as the great Rocks captain of the titanic rocks pirates, father of BB, challenger of Imu, rival of Roger

WB/Roger - Shanks/Mihawk are all extremely important and established characters

Harald appeared out of the blue

Even Oden was more important lore wise and he has the courtesy of dying before Kaido reached his peak and he still wasnt as strong as WB/Roger etc

Harald is the strongest king of the strongest species and strongest country in the OP world
It doesn't matter if most giants are jobbers, by portrayal their strongest representative should absolutely be on the level of the strongest humans

 

[Franosuke]

Anyone else feel like all of Moriah’s ties to God Valley and Wano are kind of just random af

like why tf is Oda tying so much lore to that bum for no reason

Imagine how much lore this guy's gonna get

 

[ZenZu]

While Oden was twerking night and day in the flower capitals streets, cousin Moria was out there defending the Kozuki honor

Warlords reign supreme.

If dfless cabin boy kid Kaidou would cause wreckage on the island against Xebec, Moriah was out there rivalling mythical zoan adult Kaidou. And Moriah is like the weakest of the Warlords.

@ConquistadoR @comrade @MonsterKaido @gz89 @Steven

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It's Loki that narrating all these stories btw not the usual Op narrator

There’s no way Loki narrated the Rocks and Imu scene. And we know that Loki has no idea what happened on the day Harald died, he had no idea of most of this stuff

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

LMAO The one who doesn't want to fight, didn't even fight anyone and wants peace is pretty much equal to Rocks, yet people still undermined Mihawk who only wants peace

Is that why he chased Don Kreig?

 

[Fujishiro]

Lol

But I don't quite agree, I mean even irl you'd at least subconciously shy from harming a friend even if you had to.

And in OP there's an entire power system based on willpower, we've been seeing mental nerfs since Water 7.

And trust me, if it wasn't mental nerfs it'd be some other BS like "Ki control" or " He lives in a world of cardboard and always holds back in even in dire situations for some reason".

Yeah I know irl is different though, I just feel like mental fortitude being used as a way to buff or nerf a character is a bit of a cop out. Then again haki is willpower so maybe.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

GV doesnt even exist anymore

Xebec wiped out an island

It’s implied Thriller Bark is GV…