Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion
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Exactly they cannot accept newer and more convoluted, complex, oversaturated or flanderised is better.
I actually prefer much newer versions of games usually but Pokemon my god, I've wanted to get back into it but like 1000 pokemon unironically or close to it and such convoluted, meticulous mechanics now? fuck that! I quit around Ruby and Sapphire, it peaked around there for me.
They don't understand the beauty of simplicity at times.
I actually prefer much newer versions of games usually but Pokemon my god, I've wanted to get back into it but like 1000 pokemon unironically or close to it and such convoluted, meticulous mechanics now? fuck that! I quit around Ruby and Sapphire, it peaked around there for me.
They don't understand the beauty of simplicity at times.
post timeskip is 100x better. one piece is a manga that only gets better as it develops and the plot expands and questions get answered. enies lobby washed everything else in pre-timeskip up to that point. dressrosa washed everything pre timeskip. every single arc after dressrosa was even better than that one
Yep, for me its definitely more sunk cost and and just being engaged with the series for basically 20 years at this point.
There is definitely good shit (Kuma's backstory, bigger plot revelations that move the story forward in scary ways like the Mother Flame or Harley Text, character designs in general) but its mixed in with things that to me arent nearly as engaging anymore and its half the reason I am not participating in discussions on a weekly basis here lol.
Like take fights. Even if Oda wasnt best in class with them, as a younger artist he clearly was more interested in them then now. This was pretty standard expectations for him through Dressrosa. Then largely only Luffy gets fights through the next 100 chapters. Then Wano lasts 150 chapters but the actual fight payoff for some characters was personally not well developed or too short. Though 50 chapters fighting Kaido was alright, him and BM go down without using Awakening at all was absolutely ridiculous and almost contradictory. He hasnt even answered questions from the fanbase on this.
Egghead was the world offender. Lets hype 9 Vice Admirals and Kizaru with Saturn, only to not even use half of them and not give Kizaru/Saturn a focused fight. Kizaru literally does nothing new. Yes, we know Kizaru was canonically helping Luffy and we know Luffy couldnt defeat Saturn since he was immortal, but the entire escape sequence is just impact after impact and nothing directly engaging that resembles a fight.
Elbaf now worries me because while its characters, setting and this Flashback are great, there are only 3 actual villains here and one of them (Imu) definitely wont lose in a tangible way. So in a way we are kind of repeating what happened in WCI and Egghead. Now if Imu summons Shamrock and all of the HKs back here then thats a different story, but Im not expecting that at all now.
There is definitely good shit (Kuma's backstory, bigger plot revelations that move the story forward in scary ways like the Mother Flame or Harley Text, character designs in general) but its mixed in with things that to me arent nearly as engaging anymore and its half the reason I am not participating in discussions on a weekly basis here lol.
Like take fights. Even if Oda wasnt best in class with them, as a younger artist he clearly was more interested in them then now. This was pretty standard expectations for him through Dressrosa. Then largely only Luffy gets fights through the next 100 chapters. Then Wano lasts 150 chapters but the actual fight payoff for some characters was personally not well developed or too short. Though 50 chapters fighting Kaido was alright, him and BM go down without using Awakening at all was absolutely ridiculous and almost contradictory. He hasnt even answered questions from the fanbase on this.
Egghead was the world offender. Lets hype 9 Vice Admirals and Kizaru with Saturn, only to not even use half of them and not give Kizaru/Saturn a focused fight. Kizaru literally does nothing new. Yes, we know Kizaru was canonically helping Luffy and we know Luffy couldnt defeat Saturn since he was immortal, but the entire escape sequence is just impact after impact and nothing directly engaging that resembles a fight.
Elbaf now worries me because while its characters, setting and this Flashback are great, there are only 3 actual villains here and one of them (Imu) definitely wont lose in a tangible way. So in a way we are kind of repeating what happened in WCI and Egghead. Now if Imu summons Shamrock and all of the HKs back here then thats a different story, but Im not expecting that at all now.
EXACTLY! It's shallow hype, pretentiousness, agenda/rage/gooner baiting for the most part. It's shameless.
I keep thinking about how Wano was the entire length of many "long" series. 150 chapters on one arc....JFC....I had similar issues with SBR being overly long in Jojo but it was far better written than Wano easily.
We had amazing story arcs in 40 chapters at most maybe, possibly 50 idk but even something like logue town which was ONLY 5 chapters managed to give us so much and really entertain us and leave an unforgettable mark on us too. in just a handful of chapters. Reverie chapters did the same thing in 6 chapters and repeated itself with the updated flashback to it too.
Post TS one piece is like thinking buffet food is gourmet dining culture. that it's all carefully handcrafted and made with love entirely.
Fuck man, post TS is immensely quantity over quality and we didn't need arcs to go on for literal years with so much blatantly egregious stalling and baiting.
I keep thinking about how Wano was the entire length of many "long" series. 150 chapters on one arc....JFC....I had similar issues with SBR being overly long in Jojo but it was far better written than Wano easily.
We had amazing story arcs in 40 chapters at most maybe, possibly 50 idk but even something like logue town which was ONLY 5 chapters managed to give us so much and really entertain us and leave an unforgettable mark on us too. in just a handful of chapters. Reverie chapters did the same thing in 6 chapters and repeated itself with the updated flashback to it too.
Post TS one piece is like thinking buffet food is gourmet dining culture. that it's all carefully handcrafted and made with love entirely.
Fuck man, post TS is immensely quantity over quality and we didn't need arcs to go on for literal years with so much blatantly egregious stalling and baiting.
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