Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion

[Venom]

I mean, excluding Wang Zhi, it's hard to call this revenge when Garp's capture wasn't something Teach himself even planned, and he offered Ace to become his nakama twice and without any ill feelings.

One of the best things about Teach is that he doesn't seem to the type to hold grudges – he's a pure opportunist at heart. He is ambition personified, and that should overshadow everything else. Rewriting him to be obsessed with revenge for his papa would legit be a terrible decision.

On point man teach is cold and calculative ,does not let anger overshadow him.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Btw Saturn knew Teach is Xebec's son so they're just letting someone from a forbidden clan collect the most powerful and dangerous fruits to become king of the world (i.e MURDER THEIR LEADER) as if it's just a comic book nerd collecting limited edition marvel issues for some reason
Like them not doing shit when Xebec came into the flower room was bad enough but them letting his son try to repeat the same thing but with the intent of actually fighting and killing the king is ludicrous

 

[Dragon777]

So it's almost confirm Rocks was more special than Roger.
Direct descendant/clan of Davy (jones) who's one the most important character of the ancient times next to Joyboy (who's probably Luffy lineage)
More and more reason to believe Rocks > Roger.

Even if Rocks is stronger, we won't see him beating Roger or both having a 1v1 without some interference or emotional distraction.
Moreover Oda do not make rivals top tier beat one another cleanly on panel
He also made Harald lose to Rocks by purpose this chapter.

The fight between Rocks and Roger will most likely be a highly controversial one again, where side A and B have a chance to cope with it. (Oda likes his fandom to have arguments??)
But i deeply believe Rocks is the one getting slight edge, and the one to have a worser fate/nerf than Roger.

After what we have learnt, it seems obvious to me that the one who really beat Xebec was Imu.
There were already various hints.

Someone actually believes Roger and Garp will be the walls between Xebec and his wife and child lol?
They are already at the centre of continuous jokes, but that would make them outright evil.

A clash and short fight, yes, but no more than that.

 

[fanboy]

Oda is making the Chinese guy the traitor because China is celebrating Japan’s surrender in WW2 this week.

 

[Venom]

Btw Saturn knew Teach is Xebec's son so they're just letting someone from a forbidden clan collect the most powerful and dangerous fruits to become king of the world (i.e MURDER THEIR LEADER) as if it's just a comic book nerd collecting limited edition marvel issues for some reason

There is this video on youtube Davy Jones curse you should check it out.

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

Btw Saturn knew Teach is Xebec's son so they're just letting someone from a forbidden clan collect the most powerful and dangerous fruits to become king of the world (i.e MURDER THEIR LEADER) as if it's just a comic book nerd collecting limited edition marvel issues for some reason

probs cause they dont expect anyone else to get the last piece of the puzzle

the ONE piece to destroy the WG

 

[Dragon777]

Btw Saturn knew Teach is Xebec's son so they're just letting someone from a forbidden clan collect the most powerful and dangerous fruits to become king of the world (i.e MURDER THEIR LEADER) as if it's just a comic book nerd collecting limited edition marvel issues for some reason

Usual WG peak competence.

As they did with the new Joy Boy himself lol.

 

[Cross_Marian]

 

[MonsterKaido]

Dragon happens to be the one saving shanks seem very cringe tbh

 

[OPKnK]

Rocks knew meaning of D
Roger didn't

We don't know what roger knew .
It does seem like rocks had more info in early days .
But in the end we knew Roger figure out bunch of stuff thanks to Voice of all things .
Then he find out everything when he get to laugh tale .

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Usual WG peak competence.

As they did with the new Joy Boy himself lol.

You can't be competent against the will of fate

 

[Dragon777]

At least we'll have a sneak peek of Xebec vs Imu.

 

[Blahmigooo]

Teach got his revenge over Garp, Roger and Wang Zhi

Garp = imprisioned
Roger = his son was sold for the navy and killed
Wang Zhi = dethroned from Hashinosu, maybe killed or impriosioned in impel down

I like BB as a villain, for the sole reason he's the type that Disney boys and girls and cringey incel hate...
But I have more reason to love the guy for his reasonable action.
BB should be the person take down the WG factually, i hope he does, not goofy

 

[Dragon777]

You can't be competent against the will of fate

A QI higher than 50 would help them, though.

 

[OPKnK]

I mean, excluding Wang Zhi, it's hard to call this revenge when Garp's capture wasn't something Teach himself even planned, and he offered Ace to become his nakama twice and without any ill feelings.

One of the best things about Teach is that he doesn't seem to the type to hold grudges – he's a pure opportunist at heart. He is ambition personified, and that should overshadow everything else. Rewriting him to be obsessed with revenge for his papa would legit be a terrible decision.

100% this .
People are trying to make BB into something he is not .
He great the way he is .

 

[Cross_Marian]

Btw Saturn knew Teach is Xebec's son so they're just letting someone from a forbidden clan collect the most powerful and dangerous fruits to become king of the world (i.e MURDER THEIR LEADER) as if it's just a comic book nerd collecting limited edition marvel issues for some reason
Like them not doing shit when Xebec came into the flower room was bad enough but them letting his son try to repeat the same thing but with the intent of actually fighting and killing the king is ludicrous

Usual WG peak competence.

As they did with the new Joy Boy himself lol.

My biggest complaint in the whole story

The villain from D Gray Man has fought against an organisation called the Black Order for 100 years
Then he sent one demon strong enough to nearly wipe out half of the organisation
Everyone asked themselves "he had the power to do that?! Why didn’t he act sooner?"
Then someone pointed out that he’s doing it willingly, he’s using the order for something
So there’s a big mystery behind it

in OP it’s like, plot and destiny lol

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

A QI higher than 50 would help them, though.

They still holding for solid 800 years. That alone requires massive intelligence. Many people from special bloodline come an go. Few blunders from time to time naturally will happen.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Usual WG peak competence.

As they did with the new Joy Boy himself lol.

They sent Doflamingo and a team of Pacifistas after Kozuki Moria but they let Luffy and Teach run amuck for years unchecked some how lmfao

 

[Venom]

Now hear me out , garling will kill rock's wife and in revenge rocks will Target shanks and that is why roger and garp will intervene

 

[OPKnK]

Usual WG peak competence.

As they did with the new Joy Boy himself lol.

Well for luffy they did try to kill him still Imu just seem to think he has everything under control .
Even with all the power than BB and Luffy get so far the still pale in term comapre to the WG .
When Imu who not even fully there and 2 other people can take over one of the strongest nation easy .