Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion

[MonsterZoro]

My sources say prime Rayleigh scared Garling but lost in the end

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

The thing with "Imu used Domi Reversi on Xebec and Roger and Garp mercy killed him" thing is...wouldn't there be a lot of witnesses who would see Gunko become Imu's avatar and then Xebec transform?

Like we saw a bunch of Marines cheering for Garp, so surely there had to be someone like who felt something was a bit off there if that did happen.

 

[Yoho]

Crazy we got a flashback covering pretty much 60+ years of op history and still no mention of brook, rumbar pirates or the connection to Gunko

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Redon with his EPiC double spread again

 

[Wizak08]

Imu takes over Gunko, turns Xebeck, Xebeck is defeated by Garp and Roger, killed by Garling.

That's what i'm guessing.

If Imu can turn a guy like Xebec then the powerscaling will be broken, at that point he can defeat Rocks Roger WB Garp in a 4v1 which is ridiculous

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Crazy we got a flashback covering pretty much 60+ years of op history and still no mention of brook, rumbar pirates or the connection to Gunko

Brook and the Rumbar Pirates would have died two years before Xebec first went to Elbaf. They weren't really notable.

 

[Jokerr]

WinWin for a reason

Personal chef to satisfy her cravings and help her diet

Used Hachinosu as a daycare center for her future commanders

Used Rocks to get more intel on ancient history and multiple devil fruits

Always the pragmatist, always looking forward towards the future. Even if she couldnt become pirate king at least she lived the good life eating all the sweets she wants sleeping in luxury beds instead of poverty like the dark king and his side chick

Not gonna lie, I just don’t see how she ended up not being PK. I know it sounds insane, but during this flashback her eyes have been on the prize the entire time, from making an empire, carefully curating her children’s powers, her already have her WORLD RENOWNED intelligence agency (to the point where it’s even better than the World Governments). Her showings in Wano were pure misogyny at work lol

 

[Wizak08]

I've theorized Ray being WSS before Mihawk so it would make sense if one of (or even the biggest) obstacle in his path was Garling. But yeah, many of us also theorized WB was the one fighting Garling due to the scars, lets see how it plays out. Insane Garling hype if WB & Ray 2 vs 1 Garling while Roger & Garp 2 vs 1 Rocks.



Knowing what we know about what Boa and her sisters had to endure Shakky likely went through some really dark stuff. That goes for Gunko too if Imu is a male, she was probably more than just a maid.

The only two WSS of their time had black blades, Rayleigh isn't on that level

 

[Yoho]

Brook and the Rumbar Pirates would have died two years before Xebec first went to Elbaf. They weren't really notable.

True but the flashback started with young Harald which was easily a hundred years ago, surprised they didnt at the very least get a shoutout

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

We have come a longgggg way from 'gunko > sommers is ulti > whos who' 'gunko will be a nami and usopp victim' 'gunko is overblown by fanservice fans' takes

I mean we saw Gunko 1 v 4 several strawhats and win. This is a feat no theres holy knight has even pulled off to this day. Hell we saw Saturn fail to pull this off on egghead

 

[Finral Roulacase]

Not gonna lie, I just don’t see how she ended up not being PK. I know it sounds insane, but during this flashback her eyes have been on the prize the entire time, from making an empire, carefully curating her children’s powers, her already have her WORLD RENOWNED intelligence agency (to the point where it’s even better than the World Governments). Her showings in Wano were pure misogyny at work lol

wano was a complete mess of an arc

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

True but the flashback started with young Harald which was easily a hundred years ago, surprised they didnt at the very least get a shoutout

Yeah, I suppose them reading the news about the Reverie was something that could have happened. Oh well.

 

[Guymieux]

I've theorized Ray being WSS before Mihawk so it would make sense if one of (or even the biggest) obstacle in his path was Garling. But yeah, many of us also theorized WB was the one fighting Garling due to the scars, lets see how it plays out. Insane Garling hype if WB & Ray 2 vs 1 Garling while Roger & Garp 2 vs 1 Rocks.



Knowing what we know about what Boa and her sisters had to endure Shakky likely went through some really dark stuff. That goes for Gunko too if Imu is a male, she was probably more than just a maid.

Rogers a swordsman how could Ray be wss

 

[OPKnK]

Well this is one piece where only women are weak helpless and need saving from men

I do think Oda should write women better in the manga but men is need saving as much lol
Coby had to get save twice , ace had to get save , luffy is get save countless time , law had to get save even in this arc gaban and loki had to get save.
With manga running this long the man is used it way to much .

 

[Franosuke]

I just realized Garling isn’t a swordsman. He stabs but doesn’t cut

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Not gonna lie, I just don’t see how she ended up not being PK. I know it sounds insane, but during this flashback her eyes have been on the prize the entire time, from making an empire, carefully curating her children’s powers, her already have her WORLD RENOWNED intelligence agency (to the point where it’s even better than the World Governments). Her showings in Wano were pure misogyny at work lol

I feel like the time to handle Big Mom unfortunately never really had a good opening.

Like, Kaido and her being defeated kind of signaled the end of the story, but then, if, for example, the Alliance of Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins chose to fight her instead of Shanks and won, then one of the biggest villains is defeated offscreen. But then lump her in with Kaido and then she became a second banana. Save her for Elbaf? Not a bad idea until it became clear the WG would be the villains for it.

I almost wonder if we shouldn't have had Whole Cake Island at all, but then it felt like Luffy wouldn't have been really ready for Wano, either.

 

[MUUGEN]

He was probably a high end shichibukai like fighter

thats not a tier though from current it ranges especially due to power creeps plus this was Teach with 2 DFs

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

wonder how strong he actually is since Teach needed help from Law & Koby well seems more like Koby helped in Wangs fall while Law was fighting the marines.

I wonder if it was more like Ochoko was entrenched in Skull Mountain and Koby did something to divert his attention, allowing Teach to infiltrate it.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Thanks, random asshole. I'll remember the two minutes we met with apathy.

@Random Asshole did nothing wrong

 

[silverfire]

Cipher Pol agents threatened to erase him, but Morgans told them to try it if they had enough courage.

Unironically has more aura than anyone in God Valley.