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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
So all the Lord 2nd slander is rendered moot. Just like the Kisame slander from part 1
Kishi never had much respect for Kisame at any point of the series. All his exchanges he was a punching bag who got clowned or demeaned in some way. Doesn't mean he's not strong, but yea nothing really got retconned.

2nd's story didn't get retconned either btw. He canonically still lost to Kinkaku/Ginkaku with the Raikage by his side. It just makes Naruto an incoherent mess of a series. He wanted 2nd to flex so he did, he realized an OG Senju being that weak was retarded, but you can't just go back on a canon loss and then a canon death.
 
Kishi never had much respect for Kisame at any point of the series. All his exchanges he was a punching bag who got clowned or demeaned in some way. Doesn't mean he's not strong, but yea nothing really got retconned.

2nd's story didn't get retconned either btw. He canonically still lost to Kinkaku/Ginkaku with the Raikage by his side. It just makes Naruto an incoherent mess of a series. He wanted 2nd to flex so he did, he realized an OG Senju being that weak was retarded, but you can't just go back on a canon loss and then a canon death.
Kisame mid diffed Bee. Same dude who turned Hebi Sasuke into a pincushion
 
Kisame mid diffed Bee. Same dude who turned Hebi Sasuke into a pincushion
Bee never used BM mode against kisame. The moment Sasuke used MS powers he beat bee.

Bee had matchup advantage against Sasuke being lightning user himself plus Sasuke was not using MS abilities till the end. Sasuke also didn't had his hebi cursed mark powers any more.

On other hand kisame's jutsu is tailored made to handle bijuus. Had bee used BM , kisame would have been a toast.
 
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Is Hashirama vs Kakuzu the Mihawk vs Vista of Naruto?
No, because Kakazu lost. The OP version would be Crocodile, Moria etc. Croco said there´s plenty of people in impel down who lost to Roger/WB
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Btw, Oda’s obsession with lying about fodders mattering is so that he can make the RHPs way stronger than their counterparts while pretending like the Yonko crews are still balanced, because Meme having 100,000 fodders (that Shanks can instantly KO) is “supposed” to make up for her officers being way weaker
Nah, the RHP barely exist in relation to the old Yonko crews. I don´t even think they fought/were in competition with the Big Mom Pirates. Shanks didn´t even try looking for the OP while she was around, and doesn´t seem to have been interested in challenging her for territory during the timeskip. His crew exists in relation to like, Mihawk, Teach, Loki, the new Yonko etc. If he ever fought Big Mom or went to totoland, it ended up with him running away like Luffy and Roger.

Big Mom has a lot of fodder because she spent a lot of time building up her connections through the black market and other politics shit. which seems true for Kaido and maybe WB but not really any of the nu Yonko
 
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