Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[Nadel]

its funny how people say Oda does not care about Powerscaling while Oda has clear set rules he follows in any fight ever or clear cut statments that are 100% facts. like when Oda thinks 2 people are equal but 1 has to win there is always a reson why thats the case he then makes a in story reson why that person lost there. the problem with people overall is that they seem to ignore the most basic staments Oda makes in the story for children because it does not fit they agenda.

Roger strongest oponent is Rocks, Roger is equal to Garp and Whitbeard, meaning Rocks>Roger,Whitbeard,Garp. now watch my amazing prediction with just 3 infos we got in the story... Rocks will not die because of Roger or Garp (solo), he will die either by backstab, Imu or 2v1. this statment is factual and you can screenshot this, its facts.

now simple Powerscaling with staments of this gen Mihawk>Shanks,Garling,Shamrock,Nusjuro 1 simple statment makes for easy Powerscaling. Shanks>Kaido based on Rayleigh statment "you cant train your Coc, Coc grows together with the person itself" meaning the stronger coc you have= the stronger YOU ARE. showing that again basic Powerscaling Joy Boy>Shanks>Luffy/Kaido.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

He already knows about the hunting games, those are a reason why he doesn't help CDs and refuses promotions.

Saving innocent lives should be higher priority, I would think. But for the marines, except for Fuji, Smoker, Tashigi, and Koby, that is not in their conscience or actions.
Meanwhile,

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

that’s because the fandom refuses to believe Garps not a morally good person

And I think Oda wants it that way

 

[MonsterZoro]

BRO GABAN NEG DIFF A PRIME SOMMERS AT 80 YEARS OLD PROVIDE SLEEP
PRIME RAYLEIGH NEG DIFF A YOUNG SOMMERS ROOKIE WITH ROGERS HELP THEY POSTING HINTS OF HIM HOLDING A TROPHY

COME ON BRUH MAKE IT LESS OBVIOUS

 

[thisnewtechnique]

87 pages? What happened?

 

[soupongo]

?????
Luffy and Blackbeard are going to take that fucker's life bro. What are you going on about?
Imu's going to DIE soon. Of course they'll surpass him

If Luffy and Teach work together against Imu, they aren´t surpassing him. And there´s probably no reason for Luffy to suddenly 1v1 Imcel after not doing 1v1´s through out the timeskip.

Imcel and Soyboy probably won´t be surpassed by anyone.

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It’s power creep denial. Folks want to pretend power creep doesn’t exist for their agenda’s sake.

Prime Garp level isn’t going to even be that special by EoS standards

Imu, Teach, Luffy, and Loki will all shit on prime Garp. Zoro and Mihawk probably will as well, since even Rocks and Roger didn’t have black blades. Sanji probably will too as he is Zoro’s rival and a wing.

mid and weak trio will fight holy knights that so far only legendary pirates have defeated.

Koby already broke the arm of Pizarro, who shits on most other yonko commanders. There is really no reason he can’t surpass Garp.

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Possibly

We never saw Kuzan’s full power on hachinosu.

But we never saw Garp absolutely devastate an island the way Akainu and Aokiji did.

Idc myself, but Tesla supplier is hypocritical about this. Kuzan surpassing Garp is a lot more likely then Koby doing so.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

 

[vikas]

> Shanks falls off and his head hits the ground,

I hope Celestial Dragons aren't born evil...
I thought Shamrock was created by Oda making a commentary about nature versus nurture.

I thought Shamrock was an example if Shanks had grown up as a CD.

That already failed with Don Quixote

 

[Monkey D Theories]

As funny as that is, the narrator admitted he was hijacking Loki's flashback to tell about Xebec.

Bros can’t read

 

[Sir Yasheen]

And I think Oda wants it that way

No he doesnt. Oda would’ve written him like Coby if he did.

 

[Akai2]

Oda: Now I will draw Loki telling us a "three minute" story of how his father died

Also Oda: Here's a 15 chapter flashback where we see the entire lives of Harald, Loki, Rocks, Shakky and the God Valley incident

We are not fucking worthy

 

[MonsterZoro]

ROGER : I WILL STOP WHITE BEARD U GO FIGHT SOMMERS

ZORO FANS : OMFG RAYLEIGH HYPE WTF!!!

 

[thisnewtechnique]

WINWIN

AAAAAURA

 

[Paragorn]

Ray marring Shakky is a far better achievement than Roger finding the One Piece.

 

[Akai2]

WINWIN

She's amazing in this flashback. It's brilliant for her character arc as well to know where manipulation and emotional torture led her and her family. I still holding out a 2% hope she comes back.

 

[Dr.ShiNoGekai]

The Rayleigh FC is gonna be fun after this chapter comes out lmao. @Dr.ShiNoGekai

We are about to eat good after this one

 

[Cozy Sofa]

ROGER : I WILL STOP WHITE BEARD U GO FIGHT SOMMERS

ZORO FANS : OMFG RAYLEIGH HYPE WTF!!!

What do you want Rayleigh to do, no diff Whitebeard in 1 second and then casually no diff Sommers in another second?

Ray could possibly fight WB, as in hold him off for a while but ultimately lose if it went all out, if it was that type of fight. By then Shakky would be long dead of course

 

[MonsterZoro]

What do you want Rayleigh to do, no diff Whitebeard in 1 second and then casually no diff Sommers in another second?

Ray could possibly fight WB, as in hold him off for a while but ultimately lose if it went all out, if it was that type of fight. By then Shakky would be long dead of course

do what gaban did speed blitz the whole island and neg diff 2 people at once if it wasnt for his son hostage

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I actually really like that Whitebeard and Kaido stayed loyal

WB definitely had affection for Rocks

 

[soupongo]