Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER: 1161 : A LOVE BALLAD IN HAIL OF ARROWS

[BigAmmi]

Bro, do you think Prime Garp would need to train to beat DR Sai?

Chinjao's clearly talking about his old self.

I was talking about dragon - garp

But no big shots were sharing the information. If someone like Kong knew then everyone would know. Monkey D. Dragon is a known individual in the marines currently. The fact that dragon the revolutionary is unknown to most the world means that monkey d. Dragon disappears

We don't know that. The point is that the present contradicts the past. Kuzan knews that, so robin's words aren't reliable.
An exception means that there may be others as well. And we don't know if garp talked about dragon with others than kuzan... it's been too long, oda may have simply changed his mind about dragon's mysterious identity

I mean, dragon's writing is very bad rigth now, should we be surprised about that?

 

[kekaro]

Damn the one who made this has an amazing eye to the detail

sanji is just like me fr fr
I wonder how many are getting put in a glass jar

Also where is "all girls swordsman need to kill themself...NOW!" Koshiro?

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

@Moewu Some food for thought?

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1nsrx29/_/ngo9yo8
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1nsr6w1

 

[Kiri]

people were trying to turn reality into some made up joke "mihawk upscale!" but it's true every chapter.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Nice to see Gill Bastar being shown again...

I hope he'll be shown fighting Petermoo so that we'll get to see a gun fight...

 

[NikaInParis]

So Dragon is a Marine who doesn't even know Rocks' main guys and girls?
Idk if I should downplay Rocks' notoriety or Dragon's lack of basic knowledge about his damn job

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So Dragon is a Marine who doesn't even know Rocks' main guys and girls?
Idk if I should downplay Rocks' notoriety or Dragon's lack of basic knowledge about his damn job

Is this referring to him being shocked at how huge Linlin and Whitebeard were? Cause tbf he probably never actually saw them in person before

 

[NikaInParis]

Is this referring to him being shocked at how huge Linlin and Whitebeard were? Cause tbf he probably never actually saw them in person before

He said "who are these huge pirates".
18 feet or 5 foot tall, the face on the bounty poster is the same. And these are no small fries

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He said "who are these huge pirates".
18 feet or 5 foot tall, the face on the bounty poster is the same. And these are no small fries

Oh right lol
Yeah I mean Sanji or Usopp (forget which) never heard of Mihawk despite knowing Shanks (although for Usopp his dad is literally in that crew so yknow), I guess it's totally possible that some characters just do not know about infamous and incredibly powerful pirates lol

 

[Devilbat]

sanji is just like me fr fr
I wonder how many are getting put in a glass jar

Also where is "all girls swordsman need to kill themself...NOW!" Koshiro?

Sanji seems to be unhappy with Zoro getting Shirahoshi plushie, it seems like he threw Buggy at him XD

Fun color spread! Lots of cool details, and lol at Oda not adding Carrot and Yamato to Luffy's plushie bunch, keeps trolling the nakama believers.

 

[Moewu]

@Moewu Some food for thought?

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1nsrx29/_/ngo9yo8
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1nsr6w1

Yeah, the more I think about this, Kurozumi Kanjuro also makes sense. Especially since not everyone in Wano knows about what he did with Orochi.

The last row of lanterns could also spell the words Mar-tyr not sure about the other 2 lanterns, the third one being completely blocked. I heard some people say Martyr cemetery, but it wouldn't fit, I guess.

Pedros' name being among them was also a little odd, hm.

It could also be that Mar, Tyr etc. were people before Oden's time. So many possibilities.

A secret Kurozumi on top of all that, a real headscratcher right now.

I mean you mentioned Crocodile earlier (I know more jokingly) but then again there is the Pluton connection, hm.

Shiryu could fit in as well. Tamas parents as some mentioned...

Hope we get the reveal soon and not in an sBS 100 chapters later.

 

[centurion]

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Calling it: the Paper Lantern in Yamato's Cover series that has "Kuro" in it, as in Kurozumi, is for Kurozumi Issho.

"The Purple Tiger", Purple = Kurozumi colors.

Fujitora is gambling themed, like Kaido's crew.

Fuji blinded himself after the Kurozumi human hunt, but was protected by and taken in by the Kozuki clan. Fujitora was ordered by Oden himself to explore the outside world, after Oden lost to Kaido, and Fuji fled Wano using his Gravity Fruit.

Issho "Fujitora" is a Kurozumi connected to the Kozuki clan, and, IMO, related to Orochi and Tama (I believe Fuji is Orochi's brother, their child portraits are similar).

 

[coolio]

Sanji seems to be unhappy with Zoro getting Shirahoshi plushie, it seems like he threw Buggy at him XD

Fun color spread! Lots of cool details, and lol at Oda not adding Carrot and Yamato to Luffy's plushie bunch, keeps trolling the nakama believers.

He once held on to all those flying around him but they dropped. Carrot and Yams are still precious to him. This is above Nakama debates.

 

[Non]

The Yamato cover story and God Valley flashback happening at the same time, makes Kaido obtaining his main devil fruit powers at God valley more important than I thought.

 

[moreha9685]

The Yamato cover story and God Valley flashback happening at the same time, makes Kaido obtaining his main devil fruit powers at God valley more important than I thought.

More laughable, you mean.
He lost his crew in GV in exhange for a DF, and ultimately did fuck-all with it.

 

[Non]

More laughable, you mean.
He lost his crew in GV in exhange for a DF, and ultimately did fuck-all with it.

Now he's either dead or alive, so maybe his DF is back in circulation?

 

[moreha9685]

Now he's either dead or alive, so maybe his DF is back in circulation?

He's alive.
But even if the DF were to reincarnate, the problem still stands: for 30 years Kaido has been an alcoholic tyrant whose whole influence was undone 1 week after his defeat.
He wasn't the peak of anything: not of power, not of influence, not even of everlasting impressions.
He had so much to live up to, and he fell short of every single expectation.

 

[MonsterKaido]

He's alive.
But even if the DF were to reincarnate, the problem still stands: for 30 years Kaido has been an alcoholic tyrant whose whole influence was undone 1 week after his defeat.
He wasn't the peak of anything: not of power, not of influence, not even of everlasting impressions.
He had so much to live up to, and he fell short of every single expectation.

He has best of feats minus Imu/JB. BM and Kaido's fall started the domimo which will lead to WG's fall.

 

[moreha9685]

He has best of feats minus Imu/JB. BM and Kaido's fall started the domimo which will lead to WG's fall.

Sure. He was a tanking monster. But in the grand scheme of things, what has he accomplished? He held Wano captive until JB returned & brushed him aside. His army was dismantled, his own child turned to serve the enemy. All Kaido had was the bottle.