Break Week When the manga ends people will realize side characters werent worth it

#41
Not really the point.

Even taking into account the volume of character he introduces, Oda has obscene batting average.

But the volume of characters is still massive, and it has a huge impact on pacing. Dressrosa Arc was like ~100 chapters but felt like twice that because of the slow ass pacing.
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#43
Kishimoto got it right with Naruto, who gives a fuck about side characters that don't drive the plot at all
Is this not proof that you (almost) can’t satisfy everyone?

A lot of the fandom’s number one complaint when it comes to Naruto is Kishimoto abandoning a lot of the cool side characters from Part 1

Rock Lee is never relevant again, Neji isn’t relevant until he dies in the final arc, Hinata does nothing the whole series and her relationship with Naruto is never developed, the rest of the Konoha 11 pretty much fall off a cliff after the OG

You either do too much or you don’t do enough. I think FMAB is the only anime I’ve ever watched where no one really complains about the character’s having too much or too little screentime. They all get their fair share and have relatively satisfying conclusions
 
#44
Is this not proof that you (almost) can’t satisfy everyone?

A lot of the fandom’s number one complaint when it comes to Naruto is Kishimoto abandoning a lot of the cool side characters from Part 1

Rock Lee is never relevant again, Neji isn’t relevant until he dies in the final arc, Hinata does nothing the whole series and her relationship with Naruto is never developed, the rest of the Konoha 11 pretty much fall off a cliff after the OG

You either do too much or you don’t do enough. I think FMAB is the only anime I’ve ever watched where no one really complains about the character’s having too much or too little screentime. They all get their fair share and have relatively satisfying conclusions
Gaara got a few Moments
 
#47
You know why the side characters in op are great and oda is focusing on them rather than SHs
Cuz they became boring in oda vision, he is not interested anymore in them
And the clown 🤡 Loda he is the one who did it to himself ,
Cuz he repeats every characteristic and gag for every SHs ,nah they became worse for this reason.
And he refuse to make them grow or show any human growth as characters
Luffy is the same one in chapter 1 as character nah he even got worse lol original luffy is better. Same for zolo and other SHs .
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Its oda mistake blame him.
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#48
Is this not proof that you (almost) can’t satisfy everyone?

A lot of the fandom’s number one complaint when it comes to Naruto is Kishimoto abandoning a lot of the cool side characters from Part 1

Rock Lee is never relevant again, Neji isn’t relevant until he dies in the final arc, Hinata does nothing the whole series and her relationship with Naruto is never developed, the rest of the Konoha 11 pretty much fall off a cliff after the OG

You either do too much or you don’t do enough. I think FMAB is the only anime I’ve ever watched where no one really complains about the character’s having too much or too little screentime. They all get their fair share and have relatively satisfying conclusions

Obviously you can't satisfy everyone because everyone has different preferences. Personally, I don't really care that much for side characters that aren't relevant to the plot unless they have thematic or symbolic importance to the narrative. I think AOT is a good example of utilizing characters like Shadis, Kenny, Pyxis, and especially Grisha to have a low-screentime high impact effect without bloating up the story (which I feel like Oda unfortunately has a bad habit of)

People say they want to see more of the Konoha 11 but I never really understood it that much because the story is not about the Konoha 11. Who wants to see Shino backstory or sidequest during the Five Kage Summit or Itachi Pursuit? They're not major characters so they don't receive major focus. Most of them are just there to make the world feel more alive. Rock Lee is someone who maybe could've used a bit more focus in part 2 but his character arc was already completed in part 1, and Might Guy ends up overshadowing him anyway.

I think people let their expectations of what they want to happen get ahead of what the story actually intends for certain characters. Naruto is not a romance manga, we get reasons for why Hinata feels affection for Naruto and vice versa, and we see how they stick up for each other in times of trouble. There isn't really much more needed than that, because that's not what the story is about.
 

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#49
Is it just me or do admiral fans who act toxic seem to hate the story?

Like, Lee, kurwa, and I think I remember others being the same but I'm not going to say that about them unless I see it again to be sure

Seems you guys hate the story and make up toxic stuff
The concept of dropping the manga when you clearly no longer enjoy it, and moving on instead of actively whining about it is foreign on this forum.
 
#50
Is it just me or do admiral fans who act toxic seem to hate the story?

Like, Lee, kurwa, and I think I remember others being the same but I'm not going to say that about them unless I see it again to be sure

Seems you guys hate the story and make up toxic stuff
Sunk cost fallacy, plus some people just like to have a punching bag
Complaining about the manga 24/7 feels cathartic to them, they like to have something to shit on and insult
Not saying it's bad to criticize the manga as it's obviously got a lot of flaws nowadays but the people who dedicate their whole existence here to just being bitter and hating on it clearly just want something to get mad over
 
#52
The concept of dropping the manga when you clearly no longer enjoy it, and moving on instead of actively whining about it is foreign on this forum.
Aye but people can still find enjoyment from the fandom surrounding the story even if they don't actually care for the story itself anymore. Investment is one hell of a detriment to simply walking away entirely.

Besides, it is hard to walk away from One Piece when there just isn't a real alternative to it. Everything else just doesn't have the same staying power. What are they going to walk away to? MHA, JJK or Demon Slayer? Oh wait, they all ended already.

Shonen Jump's profits will be a shadow of what they once were the moment Oda actually retires.
 
#54
It is true oda has side lined SHs minus Luffy in post skip.

Though for side characters I will say it depends on quality. Rocks and rocks pirates are 10/10. Scabbards were 1/10.
Wano had quality side characters. Otama 10/10. Yamato 9/10 due to her Oden fantasy bringing her down 1 point. The Tobi Roppo are the best/most interesting underling team other than Rocks pirates. Ulti > BM in portrayal. Ulti 10/10.
 
#57
Killer as well

technically he beat Hawkins another swordsman.

he no diffed dozens of wano samurai (all swordsman with a knife)

Hyouzou

Ryuuma

Hachi

Ohm oh you said that already

100 Bounty Hunters which housed swordsmen

TBone

thats all i can think of but quite a lot of swordsmen from what I can remember.

some peoples headcannon and toxity dumbs them down
He defeated Cabaji , Ohm, Kaku, Pica, King
King and Pika arent swordsmen
And Kaku wasnt even using his swords, he was using giraffe gimmicks that had nothing to do with swordsmanship

Ohm and Cabaji are too irrelevant that even people who love side characters never talk about them
 

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
#59
Most of the strawhats already had their stories told and not much to reveal about them at least nothing that affects the current story

Pre time skip was about the strawhats, bringing them together and learning why they became pirates and establishing their quirks and personalities

Post time skip- we might learn information about the strawhats but post time skip is about the world around them, the story is no longer progressing based on the strawhats actions now its progressing based on the world around them and the side characters that fill that world have been amazing
 
#60
Aye but people can still find enjoyment from the fandom surrounding the story even if they don't actually care for the story itself anymore. Investment is one hell of a detriment to simply walking away entirely.

Besides, it is hard to walk away from One Piece when there just isn't a real alternative to it. Everything else just doesn't have the same staying power. What are they going to walk away to? MHA, JJK or Demon Slayer? Oh wait, they all ended already.

Shonen Jump's profits will be a shadow of what they once were the moment Oda actually retires.
Nah:
The numbers
 
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