Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion

[Reborn]

The titanic captains seem too weak. To be opponents after the WG.

It could be that the straw hats defeat the BBPs, then the final war, and at the end of the final war Blackbeard comes back solo to defeat Luffy and become the new King after Imu's defeat kinda like how he cleaned up at MF.

Possible but I think differently in this regard.

Unlike Xebec who was directly opposing IMU, BB seeks to kind of join hands with WG.

So, I think, we might see BB backstabbing WG to seize what he desires.

And, If BB gets his hand over IMUs powers then he can boost his crew by alot.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Fair if true, but they're still not highlighted nearly as much as Koby is.
Again, unless you think Sabo was in the spread just for him to fight Sommers in the final war, or Kuzan because he'll fight Jinbe, no reason to say nonsense like "Koby's penultimate fight will be against Pizarro who he already heavily injured with one attack while simultaneously completely destroying his mountain arm". It's very clear how Oda will be doing things soon.

Why would Teach fail exactly where his father did?
That's like Luffy not even becoming the PK. It makes no sense.
He'll kill Imu and become ruler of the world, only for Luffy and Koby to take him down like Roger and Garp did to Xebec.

Kobys in the thread because he’s the de facto leader of sword. Just like Shamrocks in their as the de facto leader of the HK.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

BB won’t be the final villain. Oda had him jump Law to get two rubbings, he’s heading to Raftel.

Luffy, likely shortly after Elbaph, will be doing the same.

Its going to be a battle between the D’s to see who takes on Imu

This was obvious.


Only BB fans thinks he gonna be FV

 

[Reborn]

BB won’t be the final villain. Oda had him jump Law to get two rubbings, he’s heading to Raftel.

Luffy, likely shortly after Elbaph, will be doing the same.

Its going to be a battle between the D’s to see who takes on Imu

Yes yes... yes....keep on going like this.


Words won't be enough to express my gratitude to you for this....

 

[centurion]

and the only reson why Zoro did not win the last pool is because every other fandom started to vote for Luffy instead of they favorite because they hate him.

Fun fact: the last popularity poll was rigged with bots

Nami suddenly jumped multiple tiers in just 1 week outta nowhere

Just saying not to trust this fake ass shit

 

[Xione]

Lmfaooo you really think Kuzan joined the BB pirates for shits and giggles dkm.

And yes he showed passion for the FA role, the dude fought 10 days straight for it. That is the opposite of lazy justice, it's clear he adopted Lazy Justice in a reaction to the Ohara incident.

- "With a goal we're unaware of" = for shits and giggles? However, that goal isn't in existence before he meets Teach due to the man visibly being in depression like Rayleigh post-Roger's death and wasting his life drinking away.

- He was a Vice-Admiral during Ohara, years later he became an admiral... what did he do? Be a lazy bum. Aramaki in a single month has done more than Kuzan did as an admiral, and that's just fighting criminals. His leadership was nowhere to be seen at Marineford...
This is the passion for wanting to be fleet admiral?? Being a lazy bum as an admiral?? Fujitora is literally showing us, you ain't gotta be a fleet admiral to change the Marines...to the point he's actively checked Akainu verbally and with his actions multiple times already in the series. Hell not even just Fujitora, Aramaki has been disobeying the Fleet Admiral left and right...

Imo, again you're conflating him having passion to be the fleet admiral vs him having the desire to make sure Akainu isn't the one who becomes the Fleet Admiral. If it was Borsalino instead of Akainu, there would be no Kuzan vs Kizaru. The mans simply didn't want Akainu being the one to lead the marines due to w.e dislike he has for Akainu.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Why would Teach fail exactly where his father did?
That's like Luffy not even becoming the PK. It makes no sense.
He'll kill Imu and become ruler of the world, only for Luffy and Koby to take him down like Roger and Garp did to Xebec.

? Why doesn’t it make sense, Oda is pushing Blackbeard towards Raftel with his recent moves;

kidnapping Pudding
Stealing 3/4 rubbings

He’s being primed for the pirate king race,not for taking down Imu.

and we still have the death rattle from Whitebeard which specifically states Blackbeard won’t be the one to shoulder centuries of history or be the cause for the war the WG is afraid of.

this will happen post-PK status

 

[Wh1p]

BB won’t be the final villain. Oda had him jump Law to get two rubbings, he’s heading to Raftel.

Luffy, likely shortly after Elbaph, will be doing the same.

Its going to be a battle between the D’s to see who takes on Imu

Considering how often you're wrong I think you just confirmed that BB will be the final villain.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

https://x.com/piratepath/status/1975270251131707524?s=46
Lmao, and when people jumped on me for saying shit like novels and VCs aren't canon even if they're approved by Oda, they treated me like I was crazy.
At some point y'all need to realize the facts: The things I say on here aren't things I say because of my feelings towards these characters. I'm really just going off what the manga shows us.
If I realize a VC is contradicting the manga then I just write VCs off as a whole. And now it looks like everyone else is doing that too.
I never cared that the VCs have things that can help me hype my favorite characters, I still decided to deem them as unofficial material, and I was ultimately correct.

 

[Reborn]

This was obvious.


Only BB fans thinks he gonna be FV

We all know how your obvious takes end


"Eustass kidd will beat Shanks"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They're not a problem. Oda can buff them up through Imu or have Teach dispose off them when he loses mind due to too much power.

Aokiji is likely getting killed by him.

I can see Teach taking part in the final war, but not his crew.

 

[Blackbeard]

We truly are blessed with Centurion's existence.

Getting Ws for you character is as easy as merely getting him to dislike it.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Oda has always been heavy on themes, the theme of an absolute oppressor/dominator vs Luffy who is a freedom seeker and quite literally the liberator ( Nika) is right there for all to see.

Blackbeard is no oppressor or dominator.

I'd argue he is imo cause he did have a bunch of slaves and he's one of the few yonkos that have actively invaded other islands and other pirate crews directly and has been pretty successful in doing so. Plus the fact that his own crew is made up of other pirate crews, some of which I can see being taken via Davy Back fight like his father which I would say fits the bill.

It's also the fact that he wants the world itself and he wants to be a king, I'd say he fits the bill very well especially as someone who grew up powerless in the face of the Celestial Dragons and eventually comes across absolute power should he fulfill his goals.

Even the Yami fruit is fitting cause it's made to suppress the strength of Devil Fruit users as he hits them with a critical blow, to the point where he can pull you in from a distance. Fella had Boa Hancock at his mercy because of it.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Fair if true, but they're still not highlighted nearly as much as Koby is.
Again, unless you think Sabo was in the spread just for him to fight Sommers in the final war, or Kuzan because he'll fight Jinbe, no reason to say nonsense like "Koby's penultimate fight will be against Pizarro who he already heavily injured with one attack while simultaneously completely destroying his mountain arm". It's very clear how Oda will be doing things soon.

Why would Teach fail exactly where his father did?
That's like Luffy not even becoming the PK. It makes no sense.
He'll kill Imu and become ruler of the world, only for Luffy and Koby to take him down like Roger and Garp did to Xebec.

BB will kill Kuzan.

Coby will get his ice Fruit.

Hence immediately Making Coby a Top tier and fighting one of the Big shots

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'd argue he is imo cause he did have a bunch of slaves and he's one of the few yonkos that have actively invaded other islands and other pirate crews directly and has been pretty successful in doing so. Plus the fact that his own crew is made up of other pirate crews, some of which I can see being taken via Davy Back fight like his father which I would say fits the bill.

It's also the fact that he wants the world itself and he wants to be a king, I'd say he fits the bill very well especially as someone who grew up powerless in the face of the Celestial Dragons and eventually comes across absolute power should he fulfill his goals.

Even the Yami fruit is fitting cause it's made to suppress the strength of Devil Fruit users as he hits them with a critical blow, to the point where he can pull you in from a distance. Fella had Boa Hancock at his mercy because of it.

Problem is Teach himself saying everyone who joins him does so for their own freedom.

Teach is a darker reflection of Luffys theme of freedom. Both offer freedom, but Teach’s freedom brings destruction while Luffys brings liberation.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kobys in the thread because he’s the de facto leader of sword. Just like Shamrocks in their as the de facto leader of the HK.

Yet nobody says things like "Shamrock will fight Morley or Belo Betty" because that's obviously just silly.
Every single character on that thread (besides Buggy) will obviously have a very important fight with a top tier. It's so painfully obvious by now.
Koby was the second important person Luffy met on his journey, and he's said multiple times now he'll become an Admiral and stop Luffy.
There's a reason for that.

 

[Juanpiz]

BB will kill Kuzan.

Coby will get his ice Fruit.

Hence immediately Making Coby a Top tier and fighting one of the Big shots

Pink Boy is haki merchant

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

BB will kill Kuzan.

Coby will get his ice Fruit.

Hence immediately Making Coby a Top tier and fighting one of the Big shots

Shush

 

[Wh1p]

Blackbeard may not be the final villain but he will be the most impactful villain

 

[Fujishiro]

I'd argue he is imo cause he did have a bunch of slaves and he's one of the few yonkos that have actively invaded other islands and other pirate crews directly and has been pretty successful in doing so. Plus the fact that his own crew is made up of other pirate crews, some of which I can see being taken via Davy Back fight like his father which I would say fits the bill.

It's also the fact that he wants the world itself and he wants to be a king, I'd say he fits the bill very well especially as someone who grew up powerless in the face of the Celestial Dragons and eventually comes across absolute power should he fulfill his goals.

Even the Yami fruit is fitting cause it's made to suppress the strength of Devil Fruit users as he hits them with a critical blow, to the point where he can pull you in from a distance. Fella had Boa Hancock at his mercy because of it.

When did he have slaves?

As for the rest youre kind of reaching imo. In fullalead everyone everyone chilling and partying 24/7 for example.

Oda is very black and white when it comes to these things for example Imu literally as a move a Dominates others, his greatest fear is Nika who Liberates others. I wouldnt be surprised if Luffy could liberate people that were Domi Reversied for example.

I mean this is a centires old story of systemic oppression that people are waiting for a liberator from that we're talking about. Would be weird if BB black zetsus Imu and takes his spot. The pay off wont feels as impactful when hes defeated imo, atleast from a world POV.