Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion

Is Garling done this war ?


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Honestly, I'm really starting to believe the Usopp is the narrator theory just because it lets oda lie as much as he freaking wants to, and then at the end of the series, he can just blame it on one of his own characters and pretend it wasn't his own lying ass LOL.
@Moewu

LMFAO THATS TOO FUCKING CLEVER!

Aesopp's Fable? Usopp's Elbaf.

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I'm not trying to take sides about the Sabo and Fuji topic here but it is interesting, their actions at Dressrosa did kinda confuse me and it's funny how both were big players in the Reverie incident later and Fuji ended up letting slaves escape and never trying to truly capture and take down Sabo either. He was always sandbagging based on his own personal justice/beliefs and morals too ofc.

The thing I wanted to mention actually, someone pointed out Sabo used a chess themed move against Imu.:



I love that. I'm not sure what it means as I'm not a chess fan but I love the idea of Dragon being the chessmaster and Sabo is inheriting that too somewhat? It explains Dragons reluctant to take action and being so passive and suits its pacifist nature too. He's more like a modern commander general /king that would rather sit back and command others to fight for him and take risks, make sacrifices rather than the generals and kings who would go out and fight, risking their own lives in ancient history. If that makes sense?

But Oda is probably trying to symbolise something bigger here too. I don't think Sabo will always be loyal to Dragon and he's got a much darker, more savage and wrathful side as he showed vs Bastille and Burgess in Dressrosa. I was really hoping Oda would elaborate on that but alas. Sabo being hailed as the Flame Emperor and having such infamy worldwide, people revering him and seeing him as a hero just like Luffy, both of them being major liberators of oppressed countries and Sabo having huge banners of him put up to celebrate him in some countries, I feel this will have greater pull/consequences in future somehow.

I asked AI to help me explain this better too:
Asking Ai to help explain Sabo is crazy. :josad:

W dedication.
 
Iceberg calls it "the plans for an ancient weapon" when he gives it to Franky
So they 100% knew they exited and were in the know, its not some blueprint that didnt knew about, and in fact this means they knew it since centuries
That doesn't really change anything lmao? Iceberg doesn't know much about the current ancient weapons status, he just has something passed down that's a blueprint on building it.

Irrelevant to the discussion, Croco had a plan, secured robin and got a confirmation through her, which was the point. In fact he is so convinced that at the end of alabasta he even wants to kill robin and doesnt care she lies about not being there

We also know through this flashback we have indivduals who had knowledge of imu


Dragon is a bum that didnt have confirmation about either of those things despite his whole LARP basing on it and have a organsation over a longer period than both of those guys, like xebec and crocodile
Lragon
You don't think it's relevant that Croco wasted like 2 decades trying to secure an ancient weapon when it was in a different country? It just proves that most people didn't know much about the ancient weapons at all, even Robin not knowing until the end of the arc?

We also know through this flashback we have indivduals who had knowledge of imu
Well, Dragon is on God Valley too, so either it's a
1.plothole(ngl, seems kind of likely)
2. Or no one except Xebec really knew what they were seeing,and maybe they assumed it was Saturn? Not really sure if it makes sense for Kaido, Shiki, Roger, Big Mom, fodder Marines etc all to know and see Imu.
 
You're overthinking this ngl. If it weren't for Fujitora, the WG just covers up the incident and says Doffy lost to some VA or something, like the Alabasta incident. The people of Dressrosa would be thankful, but they wouldn't want to start a new war with the government since they would just be glad to no longer be under Doflamingo, especially if Sabo wasn't like, agitating them in that way. Koala didn't want Sabo to fight Fuji, because it wasn't related to their goal of the weapon stuff.

And Fuji has no reason to speak for the RA anyway, he's clearly just saying the Marines couldn't be the heroes of Dressrosa, since that's his entire thing in that arc.
It's the opposite to me imo.

I thought it was just simply, Sabo didn't want the RA involved in taking down of Doflamingo, thus he never interacted with even a single member of the Doflamingo family, let alone Doffy. He kept his interactions to entities not tied with Dressrosa.


And I'm not referring to Fujitora speaking on behalf of Sabo, maybe I should've been clear about that. Fujitora in that panel is speaking for himself alone 100% agreed. But I'm just addressing why Sabo didn't ever interact with Doflamingo family in general let alone Doffy himself. He only ever came up at the end when Luffy was in trouble, and Luffy then said he's gone handle Doffy, and Sabo said "iight bet".
 
"its on my list" was Digimon no?
Didn't Gaban nearly die trying to do what Rayleigh did at 2% of his power?
Attacking Summers from behind with a named attack to not even cut him but push his ass into a wall?
No i think he might used 3% from his retirement status as a 80 year old
Hopefully prime ray in another 17 year shows another attack that is not asscheeks, keep coping tho its extremly funny
 
Its actually insane how many copes and agendas this arc destroyed

If you go on google search or the forum search and look up "named attacks" for example you see a flood of scholars about "wait for painters named attack oda didnt show it because its so powerful" or some shit like that

Those posts litteraly vanish this arc like in flash, as if someone flipped a switch

Its so fucking insanely funny

Free comedy :risiflip::risiflip:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I am 100% ready to debate Dressrosa Zoro vs Current Sanji.
There is not a single stat Sanji has currently to beat Dresrosa Zoro.

Rayleigh being far stronger than Gaban only proves that.
Rayleigh isn't far stronger than Gaban. Gaban made Zoro and Luffy together twerk.

Don't let the trashcans Zoro and Sanji take away from what you're witnessing. Zoro would be lucky to sniff Rayleigh's portrayal even EOS at this rate, as with Sanji with Gaban. They might get the feats but never the respect.
 
Get off the keyboard for a second and wipe the jizz off your forehead before it gets into your eye.

Then you can cope with the fact that Dressrosa version of Zoro is potentially stronger than Shanks
Baby Shanks 1 shots EOS Zoro.

Current Lucci is stronger then EOS Zoro.

Current Zoro is weaker then MF Luffy. Prime Ray is weaker then Wano base Luffy. Cope harder zoroturd.
 
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