Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[ZenZu]

How is he a df merchant? Mochi’s pretty mid ngl

Crazy what Oda has done to Luffy. Mochi fruit was presented as clearly superior to the rubber fruit. It can do everything the rubber fruit can but with intangibility and even more freedom.

Then Luffy's fruit got retconned into a god fruit.

 

[park_min young]

Is a paramecia that is logia like. Not mid.

Nah, he just made it look good

"We got robbed of a beyond Imu-level threat."

Why isn't he that with his current fruit?

Dragon fruit >>> Mochi fruit

 

[сука]

Dragon fruit >>> Mochi fruit

only a df merchant would care about fruit scaling in the first place

 

[park_min young]

only a df merchant would care about fruit scaling in the first place

Imu is one too, df merchants reign supreme

 

[Juanpiz]

Cape verde

 

[sparrow210]

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

We got robbed of a beyond Imu-level threat.
The Invincible, The Inevitable

Jewelry Bonney: Distorted Future

The Invincible Azure Dragon: Katakuri

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Nah, he just made it look good

Because it is good. Also infinite food

 

[sanjikun]

Mochi fruit was presented as clearly superior to the rubber fruit.

No, it wasn't. Katakuri tried to present it as such, but Luffy clearly mentioned multiple times Rubber > Mochi.

 

[ZenZu]

No, it wasn't. Katakuri tried to present it as such, but Luffy clearly mentioned multiple times Rubber > Mochi.

What the actual fuck are you on about lmao? Mochi could replicate a lot of what the Rubber fruit could, but Luffy couldn't replicate what Katakuri can do even with FS.

The dude could spawn limbs. Rubber is restricted by 2 arms and 2 legs. Not to mention Katakuri is intangible.

 

[park_min young]

Because it is good. Also infinite food

It’s a mid tier and heavily haki dependent fruit. You need exceptional FS to fully take advantage of its evasiveness, to the point where you start wondering if the fruit even makes much of a difference.

There’s a clear point of diminishing returns since someone much faster than Katakuri, like Garp, can dodge attacks just as easily without a fruit at all. Its attack power is weak and relies entirely on Katakuri’s CoA. Compared to the top tier dfs (yonko fruits, mythical zoans, logias, Ope, even Killingham’s fruit) we’ve seen, the Mochi fruit is borderline fodder.

It’s similar to rubber before the retcon, fodder fruits that relied on the user’s own haki and creativity.

 

[HA001]

What the actual fuck are you on about lmao? Mochi could replicate a lot of what the Rubber fruit could, but Luffy couldn't replicate what Katakuri can do even with FS.

The dude could spawn limbs. Rubber is restricted by 2 arms and 2 legs. Not to mention Katakuri is intangible.

Yeah clear as day nika retcon aside
Give somoene equal stats and haki katas fruit is superior to luffys far more versatile

 

[DarkWitch]

Wogersbase

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1977819265505055027

 

[pg13]

no it was just an one shot

Baka

 

[MarineHQ]

What the actual fuck are you on about lmao? Mochi could replicate a lot of what the Rubber fruit could, but Luffy couldn't replicate what Katakuri can do even with FS.

The dude could spawn limbs. Rubber is restricted by 2 arms and 2 legs. Not to mention Katakuri is intangible.

Again. There is a reason people pushed for mc King Kuri. He was just better.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

It’s a mid tier and heavily haki dependent fruit. You need exceptional FS to fully take advantage of its evasiveness, to the point where you start wondering if the fruit even makes much of a difference.

There’s a clear point of diminishing returns since someone much faster than Katakuri, like Garp, can dodge attacks just as easily without a fruit at all. Its attack power is weak and relies entirely on Katakuri’s CoA. Compared to the top tier dfs (yonko fruits, mythical zoans, logias, Ope, even Killingham’s fruit) we’ve seen, the Mochi fruit is borderline fodder.

It’s similar to rubber before the retcon, fodder fruits that relied on the user’s own haki and creativity.

Not much. The FS is to handle haki users. Other than that it works like Luffy fruit but better because it is catchy. Luffy just repels blunt attacks. Katakuri would sticky to them which makes easier for a counter. I do believe it is also vulnerable to cuts though.

And you are ranking DF without considering haki. Of course like that logias are the greatest. But when haki is involved zoans are the greatest because of physical boost and pretty much any logia that is not light or dark comes after paramecias.

What's the point of fire DF if your haki protects you from it and allows you to hit the Fire DF user?

 

[sanjikun]

What the actual fuck are you on about lmao? Mochi could replicate a lot of what the Rubber fruit could, but Luffy couldn't replicate what Katakuri can do even with FS.

The dude could spawn limbs. Rubber is restricted by 2 arms and 2 legs. Not to mention Katakuri is intangible.

Can you actually read? I literally posted Luffy twice affirming that Mochi /> Rubber. The whole point of the fight was the Future Sight was the difference maker, not the DF.

What Mochi can't replicate is the absurd elastic tension of rubber. That's why Luffy in Boundman can knock Katakuri's teeth out even with superior CoA, and why Luffy can take a fucking beating for 12 hours straight, and Katakuri folds in 30 mins.

Rubber always bounces back. Mochi doesn't.

 

[park_min young]

Not much. The FS is to handle haki users. Other than that it works like Luffy fruit but better because it is catchy. Luffy just repels blunt attacks. Katakuri would sticky to them which makes easier for a counter. I do believe it is also vulnerable to cuts though.

And you are ranking DF without considering haki. Of course like that logias are the greatest. But when haki is involved zoans are the greatest because of physical boost and pretty much any logia that is not light or dark comes after paramecias.

What's the point of fire DF if your haki protects you from it and allows you to hit the Fire DF user?

I’m just pointing out that it’s a pretty average fruit. It only looked good because the user was skilled enough to show its strengths to the fullest. If you get it from the jump, it’s average, peak benefits? Average to above average... Well, I guess the mochi barrages with acoc is potentially devastating af.

I agree, in terms of growth potential, the best fruits are probably mythical zoans because of the stat boosts and their added shit.

 

[ZenZu]

Can you actually read? I literally posted Luffy twice affirming that Mochi /> Rubber. The whole point of the fight was the Future Sight was the difference maker, not the DF.

What Mochi can't replicate is the absurd elastic tension of rubber. That's why Luffy in Boundman can knock Katakuri's teeth out even with superior CoA, and why Luffy can take a fucking beating for 12 hours straight, and Katakuri folds in 30 mins.

Rubber always bounces back. Mochi doesn't.

Lmfao Rubber fruit is asscheeks prior to retcon compared to mochi bro. Stop it. You're not convincing anybody, that hakiless attack from Moriah can't even hurt a logialike body to begin with.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Can you actually read? I literally posted Luffy twice affirming that Mochi /> Rubber. The whole point of the fight was the Future Sight was the difference maker, not the DF.

What Mochi can't replicate is the absurd elastic tension of rubber. That's why Luffy in Boundman can knock Katakuri's teeth out even with superior CoA, and why Luffy can take a fucking beating for 12 hours straight, and Katakuri folds in 30 mins.

Rubber always bounces back. Mochi doesn't.

This is kids saying my toy is better than yours. Lol. You take Luffy words saying Rubber is better but don't take Katakuri saying the opposite?

Katakuri not talking 30 min punches vs Luffy tanking 12h is just Oda messing up power systems. Luffy got tired much earlier against Doflamingo, also much earlier against Cracker, also much earlier against Kaido...

The bounce back shit makes no sense because he is getting hit with haki that ignores his DF properties.