Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

??????
Prime Ray is above Kaido.

Possibly. I don't know
Kaido is very strong. I think he also pushes Roger to an extreme diff honestly

 

[kekaro]

Bruised and huff puff don't mean nothing on this manga ven

This is asthma and fodder beat down erasure erasure

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Possibly. I don't know
Kaido is very strong. I think he also pushes Roger to an extreme diff honestly

No bro. There's a clear gap between yonko level and PK level. If Roger is on par with Rocks, then there's no way in hell Kaido could push him to an extreme diff fight. Best case scenario for Kaido is pushing him mid-high diff Alla Zoro vs Lucci.

 

[Ven437]

Oh my god there actually are still n1ggas who genuinely believe prime Pissleigh > Prime Kaido after this ch @The DevilMaster should I do your daily work for you

 

[kekaro]

Oh my god there actually are still n1ggas who genuinely believe prime Pissleigh > Prime Kaido after this ch @The DevilMaster should I do your daily work for you

Asthmaleigh claps koido tho

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Oh my god there actually are still n1ggas who genuinely believe prime Pissleigh > Prime Kaido after this ch @The DevilMaster should I do your daily work for you

You can quote me directly if you want.

 

[Gunko]

garp throws hands at imu but stays a marine?? kaido dont got imu in his top 5???

imu must have some mind wipe ability

 

[Franosuke]

Oh my god there actually are still n1ggas who genuinely believe prime Pissleigh > Prime Kaido after this ch @The DevilMaster should I do your daily work for you

If you really think about it though, it's the equivalent of saying Killer > Sanji because he was on the rooftop

 

[Nadel]

It mean old gen are overrated like kaido and big mom.
Weevil is GV WB which Greenbull beat him easily before coming to wano.
Shanks haki is compare to Joy boy for reason as middle generation like Mihawk.
New gen>Mid gen like Shanks/Mihawk/Current admirals> old gen

Ok..

 

[Toby D. Dog]

garp throws hands at imu but stays a marine?? kaido dont got imu in his top 5???

imu must have some mind wipe ability

Firing garp is not that simple. IF you fire him you make a powerful enemy that could very well undermine you in a major way.

 

[Ven437]

You can quote me directly if you want.

Sure

GV fruit rookie Kaido is Top 4 of Rocks crew above Shiki. Powerful enough that hes included in the legendary list of those who opposed god tier Saturnmu. Shiki and Ray meanwhile are busy simping for a tramp and excluded from THE battle of the century cuz Oda didnt think they were strong or worthy enough to actually contribute here

 

[Vergil]

Put prime Rayleigh and Scopper on the rooftop instead of Kaido and Big Mom and the RT5 get no diffed

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Sure

GV fruit rookie Kaido is Top 4 of Rocks crew above Shiki. Powerful enough that hes included in the legendary list of those who opposed god tier Saturnmu. Shiki and Ray meanwhile are busy simping for a tramp and excluded from THE battle of the century cuz Oda didnt think they were strong or worthy enough to actually contribute here

Show actual proof of Kaido being above Shiki cause Shiki was a peer of Roger and Whitebeard while Kaido was getting captured and experimented on by the WG

 

[ZenZu]

I am on my vacation. Just come here to tell waido > Shiki and kyo.

@ZenZu @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier

You came to take your L? This is literally what I used as an example before. Hanafuda's rival is relevant because he's a future Yonkou but obviously not stronger than Shiki on GV.

 

[Midnight Delight]

So 6 on Semi Imu ended up with Imu stomping everyone?

 

[Ven437]

If you really think about it though, it's the equivalent of saying Killer > Sanji because he was on the rooftop

Pre-exoskeleton you could genuinely argue that. People were doing it, Sanji had legitimately nothing on Killer who Zoro at the time considered him nerfed a dangerous strong opponent

Kaido is the Sanji here he got a massive power up in the form of Azure Dragon fruit while Pissleigh is out running away being guarded by Silver axe's rival

 

[Gunko]

Firing garp is not that simple. IF you fire him you make a powerful enemy that could very well undermine you in a major way.

idk if imu can reversi rocks i dont see garp tanking that unless the monkey genes counter it

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Sure

GV fruit rookie Kaido is Top 4 of Rocks crew above Shiki. Powerful enough that hes included in the legendary list of those who opposed god tier Saturnmu. Shiki and Ray meanwhile are busy simping for a tramp and excluded from THE battle of the century cuz Oda didnt think they were strong or worthy enough to actually contribute here

So you think this Kaido in GV is over Rayleigh? That's called having brainworms bud. Even if you want to make the case that prime Kaido is stronger than prime Ray, it is obvious this is not the case at god valley. Rayleigh had his own storyline. As a future emperor, it is relevant for Kaido to understand what he's up against. Rayleigh was never captain and never planned to oppose god. THat doesn't mean he's weaker. There's plenty of characters that could very well be over Kaido (e.g: Mihawk) who were never meant to be emperors that sought to take over the world.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

No bro. There's a clear gap between yonko level and PK level. If Roger is on par with Rocks, then there's no way in hell Kaido could push him to an extreme diff fight. Best case scenario for Kaido is pushing him mid-high diff Alla Zoro vs Lucci.

Xebec is confirmed to be above Roger.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

idk if imu can reversi rocks i dont see garp tanking that unless the monkey genes counter it

If you start domi reversing every single top tier you risk exposing yourself as an all powerful entity which can cause mass panic in the world. It's probably a political calculus on Imu's part. He doesn't see him as an existential threat, but he could very well complicate things for him if he gets rid of him.

 

[Ven437]

Put prime Rayleigh and Scopper on the rooftop instead of Kaido and Big Mom and the RT5 get no diffed

Post automatically merged: Oct 21, 2025

Show actual proof of Kaido being above Shiki cause Shiki was a peer of Roger and Whitebeard while Kaido was getting captured and experimented on by the WG

Shiki is not even Top 3 of Rocks pirates and never was, BM takes the cake. N1ggas was afraid of Kaido fighting Xebec and thrashing the whole island in the aftermatch lmfao

Shiki got wholeass replaced by BM and Kaido. Left as a backdrop paired with the likes of Wang Zhi and a fodder rival Oda made up on the spot js for him LMFAO