Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Caesars fruit is as broken as Kizaru’s, Oda just doesn’t care for complicated fight scenes
Not true in this case he put in a lot of effort into CC since he was the main villain. But CC is a scientist he is not a fighter at all.

The fruit is so busted it took a scientist to a lvl where he can threaten Yonkou commanders even. Without intel he one shotted Luffy and the strawhats + Smoker.

It blows my mind that Vergo with no df or advanced forms of haki is such a monster that CC was portrayed like an ant next to him. Just raw fighting ability, stats, and hardening. Vergo doesn't even make sense as a character when you think about it. Oda just wanted to create a One Piece version of the terminator that's his excuse.
 
He can create explosions like this


and in theory, someone like Ace would be cooked against him. He controls a more fundamental state of matter than fire itself. And the flame fruit is already a high tier logia. The gas fruit can do it all both hax and firepower.
Caesar could be massive if he locked in.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Not true in this case he put in a lot of effort into CC since he was the main villain. But CC is a scientist he is not a fighter at all
With all Oda did, he only scratched the surface of what that fruit can do. I don’t remember CC making any mustard gas or Zykon B to take out Luffy

It blows my mind that Vergo with no df or advanced forms of haki is such a monster that CC was portrayed like an ant next to him. Just raw fighting ability, stats, and hardening. Vergo doesn't even make sense as a character when you think about it. Oda just wanted to create a One Piece version of the terminator that's his excuse.
:Shadow_Unimpressed:Sir this is a Caesar conversation
 
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