Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

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Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Right now I have a vision of all the main D. fighters lining up against Imu
BB and Luffy vs Imu.
BB Law and Luffy team up
Well I think BB will ally himself with the WG and will feature from their side in the final war only to take everything he once desired.

Then Luffy vs BB

Why I think so?

Well we know BB is looking forward to negotiate with the WG. Then, this Xebec stuff kind of implied that the promise Davy made, will be fulfilled by BB but momentarily.

And, Luffy and BB are anti-thesis of each other. Light is absence of Darkness and Darkness is absence of light. They cannot co-exist.
 
Oden had been inactive for decades (we the reader knew him to be dead). It's not like Sakazuki was trying to rally them against him by calling to their feelings or something... That whole conversations focused on historical events and how they relate to the present. The marines were just given a full run through of the Rocks pirates for the first time ever, a crew they had never faced and never will face, since it was context to the Kaido/BM alliance.

Oden's very last journey as a pirate was his voyage with Roger. You would expect Sakazuki to bring that up if he knew about it or recognized his individual role as relevant considering that trip led to Raftel and the One Piece which are still crucial to the modern marines. That would have been a clear connection to current conflicts but he instead mentioned his role as a WB pirate and left it at that. This is pretty clear indication that his most relevant moments as a pirate, from the perspective of the marines and thus the world at large, is as a WB Pirate.

Sengoku only mentions him as a passing remark while leaving the room, a last bit of speculation since he is still pondering what was his relevance to all those individuals. He doesn't place his role in Roger's crew above WB's but clearly speaks of him as an enigmatic figure. None of that goes against the fact that his WB division commander role took primacy for Sakazuki someone who would have taken orders and reports on intel from Sengoku himself at the time.

Point being general statements on the strength of the Roger Pirates do not take Oden into account as his already obscure status as a pirate is primarily associated with the WB crew. It all makes sense considering he spent only 1 year with Roger and didn't take part in a single of the battles and rivalries that built up the reputation of that crew over their decades of activity.
The context was literally why the marines need to be cautious of Wano. Why would odens connection to a long gone pirate crew matter in that cautious.

Like stop just taking the context out of here. It’s clear that oden being a roger pirate is common knowledge to those who were alive during the Roger era.

And in a narrative sense Oden was always portrayed to the reader as a Roger pirate first and foremost. Him being a WBP was just a small tidbit after that fact
 
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Seems rather sus that Oda drew that Xebec pose with his sword for the 2nd time versus Imu.

It definitely is the sword in Imu's flower room, blud couldn't ignore stealing the sword which turned him into kebab.



Pretty much guaranteed to be Xebec’s blade

Probably took it as a trophy after Imu slaughtered him

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was one of the supreme blades and one of BB’s goals is to reclaim it
 
Because literally everything he says got invalidated by Rox and Imu here.
“Haki surpasses all!”
Actually two specific devil fruits are needed to surpass the world government.
“No one can defeat me”
Actually I don’t count the being that exists that neg diffed my captain that was way stronger than me
I still don’t personally see it as invalidation though? Kaido said abilities alone can’t conquer the world…. Roger though could do it with haki alone because haki transcends all. Rox plan is for abilities sure but he also has insane haki. Roger is the one here who should seemingly pop off. I assume here is where he brings the world(imu) to heel stopping the guy.

Not much to say on the second one, but I will say this the scans seem to show that the combined attacks did nothing to imu even though adv coc was used. I would wager that none of them are using it the way that Gaban is currently using it in the story vs the holy knights. Even though he said he was rusty he defeated sommers and left him in agony as sommers himself said. Even though it’s more prophetic (joyboy will be the one to beat me) it might not be to crazy to say that the kaido of today thinks and believes imu can’t fight him because like Roger he found out the secret to hurting imu :DeepThink:
 
I still don’t personally see it as invalidation though? Kaido said abilities alone can’t conquer the world…. Roger though could do it with haki alone because haki transcends all. Rox plan is for abilities sure but he also has insane haki. Roger is the one here who should seemingly pop off. I assume here is where he brings the world(imu) to heel stopping the guy.

Not much to say on the second one, but I will say this the scans seem to show that the combined attacks did nothing to imu even though adv coc was used. I would wager that none of them are using it the way that Gaban is currently using it in the story vs the holy knights. Even though he said he was rusty he defeated sommers and left him in agony as sommers himself said. Even though it’s more prophetic (joyboy will be the one to beat me) it might not be to crazy to say that the kaido of today thinks and believes imu can’t fight him because like Roger he found out the secret to hurting imu :DeepThink:
Rox showed last chapter he’s using his CoC in a manner that hurts immortals but Imus just different.

Kaidos opinions are as valid as don kriegs or big momz
 
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