Speculations Imu's devil fruit might be the "control control" no mi.

[Logiko]

Hi

Luffy and Blackbeard both want complete freedom. While BB wants to conquer the world and create chaos to have it, Luffy wants to have fun to achieve it. As such, they are two dreaming big kids at opposing sides of the same coin, and there is only one thing that can suppress both chaos and fun: Control !

This is what I think Imu incarnates. Through the World government, through their abilities, through their desires. Imu seems to be the end of the adventure, the ultimate oppressor, the worst parent of all, the one who hurts, the ones who stop, the one who controls.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Yeah obviously

 

[centurion]

 

[Logiko]

 

[kom5]

Hi

Luffy and Blackbeard both want complete freedom. While BB wants to conquer the world and create chaos to have it, Luffy wants to have fun to achieve it. As such, they are two dreaming big kids at opposing sides of the same coin, and there is only one thing that can suppress both chaos and fun: Control !

This is what I think Imu incarnates. Through the World government, through their abilities, through their desires. Imu seems to be the end of the adventure, the ultimate oppressor, the worst parent of all, the one who hurts, the ones who stop, the one who controls.

Its not its the satans or devil fruit

 

[Rej]

maybe it's no fruit at all

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

bro is not makima

 

[Blax Blah]

Imo Imu's the devil, Nika has lots of Jesus parallels, and Imu has a devil theme and is called the god of the world

I think Oda also has thought about it, because a panel of Gear 5 Luffy vs Kaido looks like a christian painting named the destruction of Leviathan, who is called the dragon that is in the sea, and Kaido's fruit was a dragon fish fish fruit

 

[Logiko]

Its not its the satans or devil fruit

maybe it's no fruit at all

Imo Imu's the devil, Nika has lots of Jesus parallels, and Imu has a devil theme and is called the god of the world

Possible, but I think it's more constructive to look at the philosophical conflict, in this case, the dichotomy between freedom and control. A demon could be, yeah, but thematically, Luffy and his crew are also demons. So I'm kinda effy on that.

 

[Blax Blah]

Possible, but I think it's more constructive to look at the philosophical conflict, in this case, the dichotomy between freedom and control. A demon could be, yeah, but thematically, Luffy and his crew are also demons. So I'm kinda effy on that.

Well Luffy has the Nika transformation, and they are called demons, by the one with all the devil parallels, Imu, it's like how Imu calls Saturn a saint

 

[Bakura]

Not Makima again.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Possible, but I think it's more constructive to look at the philosophical conflict, in this case, the dichotomy between freedom and control. A demon could be, yeah, but thematically, Luffy and his crew are also demons. So I'm kinda effy on that.

Imu achieves control through his fruit and haki being insanely powerful. Like how Enel controlled the entirety of Skypiea through his fruit and haki. He called himself a God but he had a weather fruit.

 

[Logiko]

Not Makima again.

Careful. 1. The thematics of control are articulated completely differently. 2. Makima is not new, but a repetition trope already seen in Doflamingo and Hawkings 3. Imu was probably created first, it was simply not shown. 4. We have to understand that a recurring narrative point is not necessarily a bad thing. This mindset kills creative critical thinking. So let's stop these nonsensical preshots

Imu achieves control through his fruit and haki being insanely powerful. Like how Enel controlled the entirety of Skypiea through his fruit and haki. He called himself a God but he had a weather fruit.

Possible yeah. But the idea of control as a concept as an opposition to freedom makes more sense to me. It explains the immortality, it explain the elders, it explain the desires and the place of this character in the story and the thematics

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Possible yeah. But the idea of control as a concept as an opposition to freedom makes more sense to me. It explains the immortality, it explain the elders, it explain the desires and the place of this character in the story and the thematic

Luffy doesn't have the freedom fruit. He achieves freedom through using his fruit's power and his will(haki).

 

[Logiko]

Luffy doesn't have the freedom fruit. He achieves freedom through using his fruit's power and his will(haki).

It's not a question of fruit, but concept. Yes, it could be any kind of fruit for imu. But Oda is doing something very interesting with Imu is that he is almost conceptualizing the character. For the moment, it's not a complete character, it's an entity. As such, I'm looking at the most relevant narrative asset in this situation. But I'm looking forward to being surprised.

 

[Bad English]

Doflamingo foreshadowed his ancestor's powers

 

[Logiko]

Doflamingo foreshadowed his ancestor's powers

Yeah, you could say that although the notion of control over the mind is very common trope, mostly because it's very effective and can create major conflict. Also, in a way, Imu is the polar opposite of Luffy in their social approach. Imu dominates entirely the mind of others to use them (something even Doffy couldn't do) while Luffy is giving them complete freedom of agency to befriend them.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

At this point i think Imu is devil itself not a fruit. He consumed the very devil inside it.

 

[Cruxroux]

Irony of theory drafters is that fodders gets the fruit with most potential while big bad is theorised to have control control no mi.


Just look at toki, Tama, Leo fruits.
These kinds are the most creative ones. Maybe doffy fruit too.

 

[Logiko]

At this point i think Imu is devil itself not a fruit. He consumed the very devil inside it.

Possible

Irony of theory drafters is that fodders gets the fruit with most potential while big bad is theorised to have control control no mi.


Just look at toki, Tama, Leo fruits.
These kinds are the most creative ones. Maybe doffy fruit too.

It's not really the fruit that matter is what we do with it. I think Oda is using it quite creatively in that sense. very coldly, but good