Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#46
Seems to also imply Joyboy wasnt a king at all. He was simply the first pirate in that clan. Seems Davy Jones may have been the king of the Ancient Kingdom.

The 20 Kings revolted and we are in the cureent predicament. I assume this is also why Rayleigh says to not rush in coming to a conclusion about certain things regarding the Void Century.

Given how different Blackbeard and Luffy are, I assume Davy Jones was oppressive and the D. Clan are the cause of their own demise in a way
 
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Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier

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#47
#47
Cruxroux said:
Are you all trolling?

Because where is the surprise?
It's obvious enough Bigmom and Kaidou didn't match the level of Yonkou class yet.

On top of that fighting someone which took Garp and Roger to extreme diff.

How is this an Anti feat?
Whereas a rookie Xebec killed an admiral in side quest. And had enough in tank to Clash with Harald.
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because people like ven specifically flew too close to the sun with the big mom dickriding and now they're cooked
even funnier that they claim this is prime big mom
 
Bakura

Bakura

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#48
#48
Bakura said:
Now why would Davy Clan members want the getback from Imu and usurp him, maybe @Reborn 's theory that Davy was King before makes sense.

At first I thought he was a pirate but hmm, wouldnt make sense for a ''promise'' to be kept idk.

If he was a pirate then he was a RHM to JB.

If he was King of the world then probably it was King of the AK that the 20 kings rose against.

So it was AK+ JB vs Imu and the Kings.

And like the AK fell to ruin because they lost the war and the Davy Clan was persecuted by the former enslaved 20 Kingdoms. Im just wondering here if it makes sense narratively, maybe. Because Vegapunk did say that he wasnt sure who was good or bad and it would make sense if it was morally grey as in slaves rising up against their masters and overthrowing them only to they themselves becoming as bad or worse then their masters.

If I understood the Harley correctly the first world ruler was overthrown then the second world rulers who overthrew the first one were overthrown as well back to the first world rulers hands in some way.

@EmperorKinyagi @MonochromeYoru @Sentinel @Elder Lee Hung
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Yooooo @Reborn @Elder Lee Hung seems like we were on track, this is cool.

@Blackbeard check this out bro.
 
ElderOnitar

ElderOnitar

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#53
#53
But as for why he was called a pirate, I have only read from a handful of ponegliffs, but what I found there was the record of a breathtakingly vast war. JoyBoy’s enemy…was the World Government of the present day!! More accurately, it was the precursor to the World Government, a provisional army put together by 20 kingdoms known as The Alliance!! You might say they had no other choice, so robust was JoyBoy’s faction!! Without knowing the spark that caused the war, I won’t say who was right or wrong, I’ll simply state that the two competing ideologies came head-to-head. As I mentioned earlier, for its time 900 years ago, the country of JoyBoy’s birth was a startlingly advanced civilization. And the weapons that were used over the course of this 100-year conflict appear to be impossible to re-create with the latest of modern science. Even I, a humble genius, cannot replicate them!! And therein lies the problem!!!
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The Void Century came to a close with the defeat of JoyBoy… But not before leaving vast, permanent scars of war across the face of the world!!!
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Where does Davy Jones come into this?
 
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