Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

[Dickie D. Dick]

Crydo sissies want to have the cake and eat it too

When young Crydo look good they all hype him up but when he look bad they deflecting and call him 'rookie'

 

[Shiroyru]

Depends whats worse
Getting beaten by two hakiless rookies
Or boot diffed by demon Xebec

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Yonko fans were clowning "chicken wings" over them not facing Imu, turn out Oda just didn't plan to use them as hypetools

Kaido and Big Mom getting hype tooled by Imu would unironically be better than them getting hype tooled by Imu’s Minion

 

[mly90]

WB didn't hold much either

Yeah I meant not get one shot in more prolonged fight even Ray isn’t standing a chance

 

[kekaro]

Playing devil's advocate, I think the only argument left for "prime BM" is her 48 year old version

Since theoretically it combines young BM's speed with old BM's beefiness...or at least balances the stats

But at this point we're not likely to see that version of her again so....

According to the prime BM argument the 48 year old version can't be prime because the whole argument that 68 meme is not prime because she looks uglier and the argument is uglier = failed version that reached. It her prime

And 48 version looks uglier and fatter than 28 so

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Playing devil's advocate, I think the only argument left for "prime BM" is her 48 year old version

Since theoretically it combines young BM's speed with old BM's beefiness...or at least balances the stats of both versions.

But at this point we're not likely to see that version of her so....kinda useless outside of speculation.

BM also didn’t have her ultimate attack Mother Misery at that age

 

[Zoinks52]

In a surprising turn of events, the captain of a crew, already by OP logic the strongest member of it (barring Buggy), and make even stronger due to becoming a devil, is stronger then his subordinates.

Do some of you people huff glue or whippets before you log in here? Because I swear, some of you are some of the dumbest fuckers I've had the misfortune to meet.

It's all just ragebait (I think) lol. Don't take it seriously.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It's not a throwaway line.

Silver Axe
Golden Lion

To parallel
Scopper Gaban
Silver's Rayleigh

Ontop of them being written having that Zoro/Sanji back and forth petty rivalry in the crew. Silver Axe's entire character, literally his name revolves around this rivalry.

No way can I place Big Mom above him until I see something concrete to dispute it. Shiki should be far clear of BM, he's probably closer to WB than he is Big Mom.

by canon tbh

Shiki and BM are comparable

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Holy shit Kaido fans truly are not taking this chapter well
This is what happens when you convinced yourself 15 yo fruitless Kaido pushes Xebec to high diff

 

[Zemlya]

Need this shi to save me from the absolute state of this manga

 

[Redditworstgencancer]

Crydo sissies want to have the cake and eat it too

When young Crydo look good they all hype him up but when he look bad they deflecting and call him 'rookie'

Well define „looked good?“

At best he didn‘t look bad

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yeah but Roger and Whitebeards clash when they’re actually in their prime, and the clash we saw that chapter were basically night and day.

IMO all the characters here grew after god valley

it was in a different context

 

[HellBlazer04]

this is buffed Xebec by Imu.

I know but Xebec even without that buff is stronger than Whitebeard

 

[HeroesNZ]

It's not a throwaway line.

Silver Axe
Golden Lion

To parallel
Scopper Gaban
Silver's Rayleigh

Ontop of them being written having that Zoro/Sanji back and forth petty rivalry in the crew. Silver Axe's entire character, literally his name revolves around this rivalry.

No way can I place Big Mom above him until I see something concrete to dispute it. Shiki should be far clear of BM, he's probably closer to WB than he is Big Mom.

Which would've had some merit if Silver Axe and Shiki were Gaban/Ray's GV matchups, but they aren't, so it doesn't mean anywhere near enough to replace the awful anti-feats Silver Axe has.

The panel of him gasping for life on his knees in front of Kaido and WB off of the exact same weak-ass attack is genuinely embarrassing. If you didn't know the characters, you'd 100% be placing Silver Axe below Kaido let alone Big Mom.

Like I said, if Silver Axe gets some feats then great, but as of right now he's not even above Kaido feat-wise.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

And BM’s feats are better than Shiki’s

 

[Shiroyru]

Hopefully that matchup happens next chapter since Shiki needs to lose the treasure anyway and Shanks ends up on the Roger pirates ship

Silver Axe got KOed by a background fodder, and Rayleigh is still running to the ship with Shakky. It’s Gaban vs Shiki time

 

[Hanzo hattori]

This is from one piece manga they read two piece

 

[ZenZu]

Hopefully that matchup happens next chapter since Shiki needs to lose the treasure anyway and Shanks ends up on the Roger pirates ship

If Rayleigh comes back it will happen for sure.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

It's all just ragebait (I think) lol. Don't take it seriously.

Sometimes I wonder...

 

[kekaro]

Yes the BM we seen in wano is prime
I agree