Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

the worst thing that could happen to this community is the jjk fan types of people joining it and saying nonsense like "bro Kizaru would totally be calm against the third strongest character in the verse trying to kill him"
I think its in character for Kizaru to be stoic, but he reacted to Sanji blocking his laser beams. If he did that then hes reacting to Demon Rocks trying to murder him.
 
Is there any similarities between rooftop and GV condition?🥴
Rooftop has Kaido and Mom but also powerful commanders downside that would need other strong fighter to hold them off.....Marco and Sanji are there for that.

GV is basically filled with all legendary pirate of that era in one location running around. And the strongest entity in the show has made it's presence.
And Oda choose 6 people to gangup on that guy. And those 6 people happend to be 3 OG Yonko + Xebec + Garp + Roger.
Coincidentally? No it should be mistakes!!
Yes there are? A big battle where multiple characters fight together and ultimately do nothing before separating the main characters out for their legitimate fight.

It’s legit a Killer on the rooftop scenario lmao
 
Out of all the Admirals I think I could only see Greenbull and Kong be genuinely afraid.

Akainu would be angry, Kizaru and Kuzan would be surprised in different ways but ready to fight, Fuji would be grim and resigned to battle, Sengoku would be sweaty and angry while old Garp would be excited.
I think its in character for Kizaru to be stoic, but he reacted to Sanji blocking his laser beams. If he did that then hes reacting to Demon Rocks trying to murder him.
 
That would require Imu to have more of a personality.
He/She/It likes butterflies, and thinks very highly of themselves as a divine being (arguably with good reason) that is plenty of personality already. I know arguably just as much about Imu right now as I do about Kaido and Imu does not even have a face reveal yet while Kaido is havign a lava bath currently.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I think its in character for Kizaru to be stoic, but he reacted to Sanji blocking his laser beams. If he did that then hes reacting to Demon Rocks trying to murder him.
I doubt it, he didn't care too much for Nika or even Rayleigh popping up out of nowhere to block his kick. Conventional power doesn't move him (although you can argue this isn't conventional, but I simply doubt he would make much more of a face than the one he made facing Marco). This is why the Sanji moment hits different, it makes no sense.
 
He/She/It likes butterflies, and thinks very highly of themselves as a divine being (arguably with good reason) that is plenty of personality already. I know arguably just as much about Imu right now as I do about Kaido and Imu does not even have a face reveal yet while Kaido is havign a lava bath currently.
But the megalomaniac with a God Complex villain is so pervasive in Japanese media. Plus, we already had Enel, much less all the other CD's in this role, too.

As it is, he just feels clichéd and uninspired.
 
Idk but GV Kaido & BM fans used them facing Imu was a proof they were above everyone else that wasn't (like Rayleigh, Gaban, Shiki).
Turn out they were just hype tools
Kaido at least has the excuse of being a rookie who just got his DF.
Anyone with a brain knew he would be hype tooled sooner or later. Even Kaido fans smelled it, they just wanted him to have some shine before that (which he kinda did).

I wonder what would be the excuse for Big Mom lmao. She is almost 30, should be kinda close to her prime.

At the same time, Oda didn't write Whitebeard be a hype tool.

I was saying this a couple of chapters back as well.
Rocks basically asking Whitebeard to escape, while Whitebeard staying back out of loyalty alone by chalking up some excuse was a character moment. It was Oda rubber stamping that Whitebeard was the true first mate, and that he was also built different.

This is twice that Oda refused to hype tool Whitebeard by the way. Last time was with Garp.
 
When its in your face like that I have to think itll fail and a red herring. Luffy needs to be the one that liberates the world from the WGs systemic oppresion. Words from WB himself who got them from Roger who learned the entire history of the world.

I believe BB will be there in the final battle and the 3 of them will fight it out.

To ignore context and everything else the Imu side has just because you dislike him and like BB more is just dumb man.
Imu is the ultimate red herring, he's built up to be some kind of invincible foe, yet we get more and more hints that Teach prepared himself for Imu.

Imu fans are ignoring everything about the story, they don't care that Teach has been built up for decades while Imu was introduced in the final saga, they don't care that Luffy has more personal beef with Teach, they don't care that Teach is the story's only Anti-Luffy.

As for Luffy liberating the world, why can't he do that after BB gets power drunk and becomes the new King Of The World?
 
I doubt it, he didn't care too much for Nika or even Rayleigh popping up out of nowhere to block his kick. Conventional power doesn't move him (although you can argue this isn't conventional, but I simply doubt he would make much more of a face than the one he made facing Marco). This is why the Sanji moment hits different, it makes no sense.
I can see your point, facing the WSM in MF and all his forces and he was pretty nonchalant, heck even when Shanks showed up. I just think that Oda who made Xebec kill an admiral would give him his due and have Kizaru react in some way or atleast seem more serious.

Like this:

 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Kaido at least has the excuse of being a rookie who just got his DF.
Anyone with a brain knew he would be hype tooled sooner or later. Even Kaido fans smelled it, they just wanted him to have some shine before that (which he kinda did).

I wonder what would be the excuse for Big Mom lmao. She is almost 30, should be kinda close to her prime.

At the same time, Oda didn't write Whitebeard be a hype tool.

I was saying this a couple of chapters back as well.
Rocks basically asking Whitebeard to escape, while Whitebeard staying back out of loyalty alone by chalking up some excuse was a character moment. It was Oda rubber stamping that Whitebeard was the true first mate, and that he was also built different.

This is twice that Oda refused to hype tool Whitebeard by the way. Last time was with Garp.
The bar has been lowered so much for WB where we are taking these as a win. It's crazy to me.

It's not the end of the world, but from where we came in MF to just being glad he isn't being treated like Big Mom. Tough times.
 
He/She/It likes butterflies, and thinks very highly of themselves as a divine being (arguably with good reason) that is plenty of personality already. I know arguably just as much about Imu right now as I do about Kaido and Imu does not even have a face reveal yet while Kaido is havign a lava bath currently.
Truth is we know more about Kaido personality but current day kaido was still boring .
Young kaido is more fun but i expect when we get the Imu\VC flashback .
He going to be very differnt than how he is now and will be full of personality.
 
I doubt it .
Kizaru get shock when his laser get stop by sanji kick .
Even him would be WTF is this shit if he was on GV for while lol
Then back to normal .
The Sanji thing is interesting because it's implied to straight up break the laws of physics. I'm curious if it will lead to anything.

I also kind of feel that Kizaru's intense reaction may also have had to do with his frayed mental state, since he was closing his eyes preparing to kill Bonney before it happened.

Anyways @Bakura I do agree he'd be surprised, but not as much as in EH..I think he'd take it in stride more quickly.
 
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