Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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Imu is the ultimate red herring, he's built up to be some kind of invincible foe, yet we get more and more hints that Teach prepared himself for Imu.

Imu fans are ignoring everything about the story, they don't care that Teach has been built up for decades while Imu was introduced in the final saga, they don't care that Luffy has more personal beef with Teach, they don't care that Teach is the story's only Anti-Luffy.
Teach is preparing himself yes. Hes biding his time but that doesnt mean he will win out in the end, you say we ignore everything about the story yet Imu out there is having PTSD about JB(Nika), when faced with what he thought was Davy Jones he was merely angry. But sure you wont point this out.

I have thought BB would be the final villain or even Akainu until the Reverie happened. The Harley only reinforced my belief and you arent addressing my point besides '' BB is preparing himself''. Blackbeard is Nega Luffy, yes and thats what he is.

As for Luffy liberating the world, why can't he do that after BB gets power drunk and becomes the new King Of The World?
So youd rather there be redundant plot points that Imu couldve served for BB to be FV? I dont understand lol.
 
But the megalomaniac with a God Complex villain is so pervasive in Japanese media. Plus, we already had Enel, much less all the other CD's in this role, too.

As it is, he just feels clichéd and uninspired.
The only thing impressive about Imu is how genetic he is, it's like Oda chose to create the most basic villain ever, Evil manchild with a god complex is like the most common villain ever.
 
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Why argue with ppl who sees an admiral gets off screen by a rookie and still has the bAlls to say an admiral would stand in front of demon boosted xbec and not be fazed or worried.
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making it seem that losing to rookie xbec midd diff and dying is better than a rookie losing to prime xbec imu boosted xbec who didn’t die.

Better yet claim GV is prime kaido.
brain worms of a fandom fr but it’s funny at least not on sukuna vs gojo lvl but still funny regardless.
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The bar has been lowered so much for WB where we are taking these as a win. It's crazy to me.

It's not the end of the world, but from where we came in MF to just being glad he isn't being treated like Big Mom. Tough times.
The thing is WB will shine more post GV and we wont see that. I believe hes not in his prime yet as of right now. He attained WSM status during Rogers era.
 
Teach is preparing himself yes. Hes biding his time but that doesnt mean he will win out in the end, you say we ignore everything about the story yet Imu out there is having PTSD about JB(Nika), when faced with what he thought was Davy Jones he was merely angry. But sure you wont point this out.

I have thought BB would be the final villain or even Akainu until the Reverie happened. The Harley only reinforced my belief and you arent addressing my point besides '' BB is preparing himself''. Blackbeard is Nega Luffy, yes and thats what he is.


So youd rather there be redundant plot points that Imu couldve served for BB to be FV? I dont understand lol.
I can see why you think Imu will be the final villain, doesn't surprise me since you thought Akainu has a chance of being the final villain.
 
The bar has been lowered so much for WB where we are taking these as a win. It's crazy to me.

It's not the end of the world, but from where we came in MF to just being glad he isn't being treated like Big Mom. Tough times.
I feel like the longer a character is in Oda's hands the more tarnished their record will be lol.

Look at Roger for example. Hell, look at Kaido getting turned into a rope, or Kizaru being turned into a pizza, or BM/Roger getting turned into punching bags.

At this point I do see it as a mercy that WB hasn't been worfed so far, although Demon Rocks will likely do that to him.
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Teach is preparing himself yes. Hes biding his time but that doesnt mean he will win out in the end, you say we ignore everything about the story yet Imu out there is having PTSD about JB(Nika), when faced with what he thought was Davy Jones he was merely angry. But sure you wont point this out.

I have thought BB would be the final villain or even Akainu until the Reverie happened. The Harley only reinforced my belief and you arent addressing my point besides '' BB is preparing himself''. Blackbeard is Nega Luffy, yes and thats what he is.


So youd rather there be redundant plot points that Imu couldve served for BB to be FV? I dont understand lol.
As much fun as it would be to see the World Nobles slaughtered, unfortunately it isn't Oda's writing style to do so. But Teach enslaving them even for a little bit would be sufficient karma, I suppose.

Basically, if he can destroy the WG by conquering Mariejois, then Dragon can start the process of making a better replacement if all the assholes are dead or cowed. Essentially, the bad guy does the dirty work for the heroes.
 
The Sanji thing is interesting because it's implied to straight up break the laws of physics. I'm curious if it will lead to anything.

I also kind of feel that Kizaru's intense reaction may also have had to do with his frayed mental state, since he was closing his eyes preparing to kill Bonney before it happened.

Anyways I do agree he'd be surprised, but not as much as in EH..I think he'd take it in stride quickly.
Yeah i do expect Kizaru to take in stride same for other characters .
I mean pirates were WTF for very short while then back to normal .
So really i would expect the same for all other top tiers no matter the side.
Quick shock then okay time do what we got to do but GB he would be super hype helping a elder lmao .
 
As much fun as it would be to see the World Nobles slaughtered, unfortunately it isn't Oda's writing style to do so. But Teach enslaving them even for a little bit would be sufficient karma, I suppose.

Basically, if he can destroy the WG by conquering Mariejois, then Dragon can start the process of making a better replacement if all the assholes are dead or cowed. Essentially, the bad guy does the dirty work for the heroes.
The CDs will all die imo, at the hands of Imu turning them into demons.
 

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The only one who can beat me is me
The thing is WB will shine more post GV and we wont see that. I believe hes not in his prime yet as of right now. He attained WSM status during Rogers era.
He's entered his prime, he's just not at the peak of his career.

The thing is as it pertains to Xebec is there's just no way Rocks was below Roger or WB.
 
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