Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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The reality is without a df, roger , xebec garp etc
is prob the level one can reach max and it isnt a level too far off from others like shanks, mihawk kaido etc . I would argue its comparable tbh
pirate messiah though will prob be different because he has a reality bending fruit.

honestly this explains why garp trained for chinjao
 

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Ngl Garp the Fist lowkey took the biggest L in Agenda Piece history when Gaban was revealed. Dude made a career out of pretending that Scopper Gaban (who got side by side portrayal with Ray and shares a naming convention with Roger and Ray) was just some random YC level dude who would never be even remotely relevant to the story.
It reminds me of you with Shiki and Silver Axe a bit.
 
@ZenZu What was the Zoro fandom’s biggest L: ZKK, Zoro fighting Lucci instead of Kizaru, or Gaban’s reveal?
Forget the Zoro fandom ZKK is one of the biggest L in fiction history .
Why the fuck would someone who never kill there bad guy during the arc get to kill the MC bad guy for the arc.
Beyond fucking stupid ...........
 
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @RayanOO @Akai2 @Charlie @Bakura @TheKnightOfTheSea @Yo Tan Wa @Worst @Tyki_Mikk @Cross_Marian told you all.....

Davy Jones was the evil king of the world before IMU and 20 nations collaborated to fight against his evil rule


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Time to put some respect to Reborn the informer :goyea:
Bro...I think this is the strongest hint yet that Blackbeard is the final villain. Oda might actually ignore the Shonen tropes and give us cinema instead of the black ink blob :finally::finally::finally::finally::finally::finally:
 
the reality is the gap wasnt as significant between them
there isnt some nika fruit here

and kaido def put oden close to that level as the n4
Nah, next few chapters will definitely show us the gap between Roger and his subordinates

Everything we have seen so far debunked the notion that Roger and his Wings are relative. It's just not possible
 
Bruh, I know you know that Greenbull was just coping and doing damage control when he said “not yet.” Bro is not getting within 1000 miles of Shanks unless he has Papazuki and Papalino backing him up
I don't know what you mean. Are you saying Oda is trying to save face with that line? If so, yeah, but it obviously gives context to the situation and his motive to leave.
 
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