Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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Mihawk (who is all about swordsmanship) using his black blade against Luffy:



Kuzan (awakened top tier Logia + prime Garp level puncher) using an icicle against Luffy:
(note how Kuzan is emotionally conflicted because he owes his granddad)



@Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @ZenZu @ShishioIsBack

What is going on..

:crazwhat:
Damn that's a good one
Also surprisingly only one of them mentioned how his power knows no restraint
 
if Oda didn't have Luffy toss around Kizaru left and right
He did nothing to Kizaru effectively, Kizaru even ended up feeding Luffy while pretending to be knocked down. Not to mention Kizaru pointed out that he is not allowed to do collateral damage while in Egghead and Saturn pointed out that Kizaru has never been so slow at executing an order. Kizaru was as restricted as a human being can be.
Garp didn't drop Kuzan in a hole.
And Kuzan ended up trading punches with Garp the fist..
 
I would say the EoS power creep would apply to admirals too and they wont turn out to be good deal stronger than Yonkou if Oda didn't have Luffy toss around Kizaru left and right and Garp didn't drop Kuzan in a hole.

They don't seem invincible at a top tier level at all
@Elder Lee Hung @ZenZu @SakazOuki
That's exactly how they seem with a depressed Kizaru sandbagging and feeding his enemy, or Kuzan feeling sorry for his father figure being bullied by the absolute scum of the sea. Logically the first thing Kuzan would do against an legit opponent is turn the landscape back to the ice age, only then will his cooling powers work to the point where they can inflict frostbite on Akainu who is made of magma. All Kuzan did was hesitantly punch Garp the way he taught him, and the rest worked out by itself
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
"God" characters were introduced and Oda decided to have retired Bumgoku expose this fraud. How small is Fraudhawk in verse 😭
@ZenZu
Tbf Admirals cannot be fucked with, this is not even a Mihawk thing. Oda constantly draws them owning entire Yonkou crews by themselves, even if a Yonkou is involved. That's because they are drawn to be WMDs of the navy. They have broken abilities built for tackling any situation. You can't expect dfless characters to compete.

Now....just check under your bed for god king, he's the only one you don't want on screen with them.
 
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