Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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How do we know Joyboy was above anyone we know today? Completely made up.
Every Sun God has the same ability - gathering allies, that is his greatest strength.
Sun God was never established as individual power house with no equal. Quite the contrary.
Joyboy's Haki knocked the 5 elders out of their DF and sent them back to Marijoa, the giants wondered if that Haki was even stronger than Shanks'. And that was just the Haki stored in a knot from 800 years ago, not Joyboy himself going all out in a fight.
Imu doesnt even know who Davy Jones is, lol. Davy Jones predates Imu.
Imu is just one of the 20 kings from the 2nd world.
Davy Jones might be the Earth God from the First world.
Imu referred to Xebec as Davy Jones, so he had some personal relationship with him. Not to mention Joyboy was the first pirate according to Vegapunk, so unless Davy Jones wasn't even a pirate in the traditional sense, what would contradict common lore, he should've been from that era too.

I have serious doubts about Imu being a powerhouse himself
The elders are already powerhouses with their awakened mythical zoans and powerful Hakis, and they are just Imu's minions. Being turned into a demon already gives the victims a considerable powerboost, and Imu isn't just a demon, he is Satan himself, so apart from all the hax (Domi Reversy, Abyss, Regeneration) he should have some immense physical boost. On top of the power of his conqueror's Haki being highlighted several times.

You don't last so long dominating the world being a cracker that hides behind his biscuits. Xebec made it into Imu's flower room and understood he is power less and needs to get tf out.
 
I wonder if we’ll see baby buggy in god valley seeing as we already got the rest of the previous emperor here. Luffy wasn’t born so he obviously doesn’t count but his dad is here at least

I doubt he’s from the island like shanks and Blackbeard but what if he’s the son of a slave that was sent to the island
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