Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

[kekaro]

Set up chapter, Kuma and iva are the goats
see the scholars farming L next week

 

[HeroesNZ]

The last panel with him had the slash right in front of his face that would glide him back towards the mountain.

The angle would push WB into the ground:

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And if he did get sent flying, the fact it's off panel means Oda won't even let him look bad against a super buffed Xebec. Insane.

 

[SakazOuki]

 

[Levi]

Admiral fans really trying to shit on rookie Kaido for being attacked by prime Demon Xebec when an Admiral dies to rookie base Xebec

I already seen some clowns saying demon reverse isn’t a boost

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

😂

Typical Crydo fan with no comeback, nonsentient NPCs lmfao

Great job wasting your time replying to me just so I could body you with dozens of witnesses

Hit me up when you can explain why after a decade of fighting pirates, Xebec was still unable to surpass Bald Harald in combat lmfao

 

[Aster]

did oda want to establish garp=roger=wb this chapter? because he did

 

[SkySanji]

The angle would push WB into the ground:

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And if he did get sent flying, the fact it's off panel means Oda won't even let him look bad against a super buffed Xebec. Insane.

No way you actually think this was something in Oda's mind when he was drawing it...

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Hit me up when you can explain why after a decade of fighting pirates, Xebec was still unable to surpass Bald Harald in combat lmfao

Cause Xebec was already in his prime when he first clashed with Harald

 

[MarineHQ]

Rookie Xebec and Harald had the best Haki clash in the history of this manga, they objectively low diff Dodger and Primebeard

Reverie Xebec is Xebec at his prime. Harald sat around for a decade doing absolutely nothing, and yet Xebec wasn’t able to best Harald in combat a decade later on Elbaph. Lol

Shaving his head is the only thing Harald has done and he still almost defeated Rocks lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

At this point they can keep “yonko level”

 

[HeroesNZ]

He lost the physical confrontation WTF is my blud waffling about

Only you could look at a panel coming right off the back of BM and Kaido getting absolutely bodied, of WB having a crazy clash with a bloodlusted, super buffed giant version of Xebec, where Xebec is attacking and Whitebeard is strictly defending with a single hand and think WB looked bad lmfao. Another extreme iq kekaro take.

Oda respects WB so much he won't even have him lose on panel to a giant, buffed, bloodlusted version of a PK level character

 

[kekaro]

Only you

they are 6 different people that quoted your dumb take and disagreed bro Give up

 

[Levi]

Typical Crydo fan with no comeback, nonsentient NPCs lmfao

Great job wasting your time replying to me just so I could body you with dozens of witnesses

Hit me up when you can explain why after a decade of fighting pirates, Xebec was still unable to surpass Bald Harald in combat lmfao

Just curious why do y’all want a comeback from rage bait ?
You just claimed xbec was in his prime before he was even a pirate why do I need to take you serious?

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At this point they can keep “yonko level”

Yea because admiral lvl helped jiga

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Just curious why do y’all want a comeback from rage bait ?
You just claimed xbec was in his prime before he was even a pirate why do I need to take you serious?

And yet you can’t explain why after a decade of fighting pirates, Xebec still couldn’t defeat Harald

Harald sat around scratching his ass and shaving his head, yet Rocks was 0% stronger when he fought Harald on Elbaph. Lol

 

[HeroesNZ]

they are 6 different people that quoted your dumb take and disagreed bro Give up

The blind leading the blind

 

[Konstantis]

At this point they can keep “yonko level”

Younko was a filler from the begining.
I was saying that even Younko saga was made just to show that Luffy became great pirate nothing more and nothing less.
Xebec is for sure stronger then Roger in his prime, while Roger is stronger then Shanks, and Imu is stronger then Xebec

 

[nik87]

Joyboy's Haki knocked the 5 elders out of their DF and sent them back to Marijoa, the giants wondered if that Haki was even stronger than Shanks'. And that was just the Haki stored in a knot from 800 years ago, not Joyboy himself going all out in a fight.

That is just Shanks level of haki and we know people stronger than Shanks already exist today.
It is gathered haki from Joyboy, lol. Joyboy cannot do a better fodder control burst than that one he already did.
And mind you this is fodder control from FMI but upgraded version, this is not attack coating. Zoro rules that to this day.

Imu referred to Xebec as Davy Jones, so he had some personal relationship with him. Not to mention Joyboy was the first pirate according to Vegapunk, so unless Davy Jones wasn't even a pirate in the traditional sense, what would contradict common lore, he should've been from that era too.

Imu made a mistake so he doesnt actually know Davy Jones.
He simply knows of him.
If he is from the 1st world it is normal that neither VP nor Imu have an actual clue about him...

The elders are already powerhouses with their awakened mythical zoans and powerful Hakis, and they are just Imu's minions. Being turned into a demon already gives the victims a considerable powerboost, and Imu isn't just a demon, he is Satan himself, so apart from all the hax (Domi Reversy, Abyss, Regeneration) he should have some immense physical boost. On top of the power of his conqueror's Haki being highlighted several times.

You don't last so long dominating the world being a cracker that hides behind his biscuits. Xebec made it into Imu's flower room and understood he is power less and needs to get tf out.

Xebec understood that he wasnt ready to dethrone the largest organization, that is why he went and started playing Davy Back Fight in order to gather an army that could overthrow WG... This consistently keeps being mistaken for an individual fight instead of overthrowing organizations...

We will see soon enough how powerful all of them actually are.
This is initial hype where they seem invincible. Not the first time we experienced this.
And then, the downfall era kicks in and they fall in line with all others. So far, Imu is merely Perona on sterioids, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Levi]

And yet you can’t explain why after a decade of fighting pirates, Xebec still couldn’t defeat Harald

Harald sat around scratching his ass and shaving his head, yet Rocks was 0% stronger when he fought Harald on Elbaph. Lol

Oh yk other characters get stronger too ik crazy concept…

 

[MarineHQ]

Yonko lvl an insult now. Did we buy all those volumes for this, Oda ?

 

[Jinjoo]

The era defining battle is between Xebec vs Roger and Garp. Only real winner of this whole thing is Garp whose Oda refuses to use as a hype tool, let's be real. It's now impossible to argue he was below Roger unless he gets swatted aside next chapter which I doubt is happening considering he has been as relevant as Roger the entire flashbck.

The whole flashback has rocks basically the protagonist. the story revolves around him, his rise and his fall. How his affected people around him

The angle would push WB into the ground:

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And if he did get sent flying, the fact it's off panel means Oda won't even let him look bad against a super buffed Xebec. Insane.

Oda isn't known for drawing the great fights anyway. Panellings are many of the time weird lol. He was sent flying back with that slash after clash piece. Atleast that's what oda tried to portray.