Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion
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Oda put everything from his soul into that battle...
I get it, it was a "Luffy" fight.
But I wish Oda would give similar threatment to at least legends.
Ace vs Teach had also a great fight style...
Oda doesn´t suck at drawing fights, he just got worse and clearly not in his prime.
Idea, how to draw the fight panels, a good concept.
Oda really needs help of someone who actually can draw and help around with good ideas.
And everytime I read"One Piece was never a battle manga", I want punch that someone in the face...
The entire manga is build up 70% on fighting and 30% adventure, One Piece is not different than other Shonen mangas...
All the arcs are really just about the epic battle at the end....
Fights been always important in One Piece, I hope Oda can somehow make it again.
Only a matter of time before powercreep settles in and we get soul soul awakening and AdCoC spam EoS
Also Noodle-sama was a Midd wanker. Even I am not stupid enough to put my chips into that basket. TrafalGOAT is the light at the end of the tunnel
I think the whole debate kinder confirms what I think recently about the "battles" in One Piece.
Roger,Xebec or Garp, they are victims of bad fight choreography, followed by Oda's apparent lack of ideas.
Unfortunately, what Oda always tried to avoid has more or less come to pass. Most of the characters we see in action right now were characters we've all been waiting to see in action for years but unfortunately the "WoW effect" is somehow missing. Why was Roger vs Whitebeard first encounter so hyped by the community? Because we saw for the first-time a new power(adv CoC) which surpassed the usually Sky split feat of yonkous... Mountains getting destroyed or island getting cut is something which we already saw in Onigashima. Oda didn´t make himself a favor giving Kaido someone who possesses an insane devilfruit power, the same adv CoC. And of all powers, adv CoC seems kinda "boring"?
Just look these panels:
This had more impact than anything we got in GV depends having top tiers fighting and destroying an island apart lol...
I know this is a flashback, but a flashback shouldn´t be a excuse for bad fight choreographys..
At most when it come to characters like Roger,Xebec and Garp...
Fight choreography is really bad since wano ending, Egghead was a complete disaster with Kizaru vs Luffy, the fight choreography isn't really good since Wano ended. Oda really needs to come up with something so that characters like Xebec, Roger, or Garp stand out from other Devil Fruit users because they don't have any Devil Fruits...
I wish Oda would get more help from Shueisha in this regard, with editors who know how to help Oda with fights.
Give him ideas for abilities...
Roger,Xebec or Garp, they are victims of bad fight choreography, followed by Oda's apparent lack of ideas.
Unfortunately, what Oda always tried to avoid has more or less come to pass. Most of the characters we see in action right now were characters we've all been waiting to see in action for years but unfortunately the "WoW effect" is somehow missing. Why was Roger vs Whitebeard first encounter so hyped by the community? Because we saw for the first-time a new power(adv CoC) which surpassed the usually Sky split feat of yonkous... Mountains getting destroyed or island getting cut is something which we already saw in Onigashima. Oda didn´t make himself a favor giving Kaido someone who possesses an insane devilfruit power, the same adv CoC. And of all powers, adv CoC seems kinda "boring"?
Just look these panels:
This had more impact than anything we got in GV depends having top tiers fighting and destroying an island apart lol...
I know this is a flashback, but a flashback shouldn´t be a excuse for bad fight choreographys..
At most when it come to characters like Roger,Xebec and Garp...
Fight choreography is really bad since wano ending, Egghead was a complete disaster with Kizaru vs Luffy, the fight choreography isn't really good since Wano ended. Oda really needs to come up with something so that characters like Xebec, Roger, or Garp stand out from other Devil Fruit users because they don't have any Devil Fruits...
I wish Oda would get more help from Shueisha in this regard, with editors who know how to help Oda with fights.
Give him ideas for abilities...
I look at Whitebeard Quake power and think"yeah great almost every top tier can do something similar now"...
Adv CoC is boring, it doesn´t gain someone a unique "own" power.
I like Nen or Reiatsu more, everyone can have it(like haki), but everyone gains his own unique/personal power with it, lot of different skills/abilities, way lot of different fight styles.
This lacks right now with One Piece.
Adv CoC is boring, because it is all the same, with characters doing something similar again and again.
Adv CoC is boring, it doesn´t gain someone a unique "own" power.
I like Nen or Reiatsu more, everyone can have it(like haki), but everyone gains his own unique/personal power with it, lot of different skills/abilities, way lot of different fight styles.
This lacks right now with One Piece.
Adv CoC is boring, because it is all the same, with characters doing something similar again and again.
stop right there.
I think the whole debate kinder confirms what I think recently about the "battles" in One Piece.
Roger,Xebec or Garp, they are victims of bad fight choreography, followed by Oda's apparent lack of ideas.
Unfortunately, what Oda always tried to avoid has more or less come to pass. Most of the characters we see in action right now were characters we've all been waiting to see in action for years but unfortunately the "WoW effect" is somehow missing. Why was Roger vs Whitebeard first encounter so hyped by the community? Because we saw for the first-time a new power(adv CoC) which surpassed the usually Sky split feat of yonkous... Mountains getting destroyed or island getting cut is something which we already saw in Onigashima. Oda didn´t make himself a favor giving Kaido someone who possesses an insane devilfruit power, the same adv CoC. And of all powers, adv CoC seems kinda "boring"?
Just look these panels:
This had more impact than anything we got in GV depends having top tiers fighting and destroying an island apart lol...
I know this is a flashback, but a flashback shouldn´t be a excuse for bad fight choreographys..
At most when it come to characters like Roger,Xebec and Garp...
Fight choreography is really bad since wano ending, Egghead was a complete disaster with Kizaru vs Luffy, the fight choreography isn't really good since Wano ended. Oda really needs to come up with something so that characters like Xebec, Roger, or Garp stand out from other Devil Fruit users because they don't have any Devil Fruits...
I wish Oda would get more help from Shueisha in this regard, with editors who know how to help Oda with fights.
Give him ideas for abilities...
Roger,Xebec or Garp, they are victims of bad fight choreography, followed by Oda's apparent lack of ideas.
Unfortunately, what Oda always tried to avoid has more or less come to pass. Most of the characters we see in action right now were characters we've all been waiting to see in action for years but unfortunately the "WoW effect" is somehow missing. Why was Roger vs Whitebeard first encounter so hyped by the community? Because we saw for the first-time a new power(adv CoC) which surpassed the usually Sky split feat of yonkous... Mountains getting destroyed or island getting cut is something which we already saw in Onigashima. Oda didn´t make himself a favor giving Kaido someone who possesses an insane devilfruit power, the same adv CoC. And of all powers, adv CoC seems kinda "boring"?
Just look these panels:
This had more impact than anything we got in GV depends having top tiers fighting and destroying an island apart lol...
I know this is a flashback, but a flashback shouldn´t be a excuse for bad fight choreographys..
At most when it come to characters like Roger,Xebec and Garp...
Fight choreography is really bad since wano ending, Egghead was a complete disaster with Kizaru vs Luffy, the fight choreography isn't really good since Wano ended. Oda really needs to come up with something so that characters like Xebec, Roger, or Garp stand out from other Devil Fruit users because they don't have any Devil Fruits...
I wish Oda would get more help from Shueisha in this regard, with editors who know how to help Oda with fights.
Give him ideas for abilities...
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