One Piece Chapter 1164: Davy's Blood

[OykotsTreasure]

On the cover page, Perona's in Wonderland! I guess that's where she and Moria have been this whole time! More fodder for the Mihawk/Perona shippers, too, as she's chasing a White Rabbit that looks like him. Her bunny-hollows are cute. I guess maybe this could foreshadow that people with the "ringed" eyes could come from another world? But...that's probably a stretch. This is probably just some fun. Unless it turns out to be important later!

And right away, we're hit with two things. One, Rocks IS able to resist Imu's Domi Reversi for a little bit. It's not a instantaneous flip like with the Giants, which is interesting.

And two...Davy D Jones was the previous King of the World. Someone else DID have Imu's job before Imu did. Although, Imu denies that Davy was ever the King. Which I feel implies that Davy COULD have been the King, but chose not to. Imu also seems afraid of Davy. If Davy was anything like Luffy, he wouldn't want to be "The King of the World", since that would tie him down, and he'd want to be free. Davy likely passed on the position, and Imu took it up as the runner-up. That's my current theory, anyway.

Also, we get another big reveal. Davy D Jones and Joyboy are NOT the same person. They are two different people. Which, I'll admit, throws me a bit. It felt like Oda really was setting up that Davy and Joyboy would end up being the same person. But, this does track. If Oda has the option to make TWO characters to do two different things, or ONE character who does two things, Oda almost always chooses the option that creates the most characters. Oda just likes making a lot of characters. Arguably too many characters, but that's part of the charm of One Piece.

So, that probably means that Blackbeard is our "Davy" and Luffy is our "Joyboy". Though...Luffy also has the Will of D. So, I wonder if Luffy could actually be BOTH? Could Luffy actually be a child of MULTIPLE prophecies and wills? But, again, Oda likes to maximize the number of characters. So, they're probably two separate "reincarnations".

Awww...Rocks stood up for his pal Harald against Imu. That's kind of sweet. Even though they were fighting when we last saw them together, Rocks still doesn't want anything bad to happen to Harald.

Well, now we have another mystery to add to the pile. What was Davy's Dream? And is it the same as Roger and Luffy's dreams? It's probably got something to do with that "promise" Rocks keeps mentioning.

You know...I feel like Whitebeard, Big Mom, and Kaido probably should be smart enough to realize that Rocks is being mind-controlled here? But...I guess the Rocks Pirates need to have a falling out, somehow. But, it does feel forced. No one realized Rocks was probably not in his right mind when he grew 10 feet and gained dragon-wings and glowing eyes?

Hmm...so Rocks and Whitebeard's clash causes half the mountain to fall. I wonder if this is implying something. Maybe God Valley is a island we've already seen before? Just so changed by the fight that we wouldn't recognize it? I'm not sure which island, but it's something to think about. (...Thriller Bark...?)

It would have kind of been fun to see baby Shanks peeking out of one of the treasure chests that the Roger pirates were carrying away. Missed opportunity, there.

Dragon's a failure and he KNOWS he's a failure. Huh. Shanks is the entire reason the Revolutionaries exist. Weird to think about.

Shiki wins the fight for the treasure! And off into Strong World he goes! And for the losers...I guess they'll get the consolation prize of being cool zombies in a few decades on Thriller Bark.

Eris knows Rocks wasn't ready to face Imu, yet. Probably because he didn't have all the Devil Fruits he was looking for. But, Eris DID know Rocks' plan, and could have told lil' Blackbeard about it.

Lil' Kuma for the WIN! Saving Eris and Lil' Blackbeard. Seriously, Kuma's the real MVP of God Valley, honestly. But, I do wonder...where did he send everyone?

...Wait...this seems like...does Garp have the Voice of All Things?! I mean, we know Roger had it. And it seems like Garp can hear Rocks' true thoughts, too. Huh. Well...I guess it makes sense, since Luffy had to inherit it from someone.

Next time....Rocks DIES! (Probably...unless there's another twist coming.)

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Shiki wins the fight for the treasure! And off into Strong World he goes! And for the losers...I guess they'll get the consolation prize of being cool zombies in a few decades on Thriller Bark.

Eris knows Rocks wasn't ready to face Imu, yet. Probably because he didn't have all the Devil Fruits he was look for. But, Eris DID know Rocks' plan, and could have told lil' Blackbeard about it.

Lil' Kuma for the WIN! Saving Eris and Lil' Blackbeard. Seriously, Kuma's the real MVP of God Valley, honestly. But, I do wonder...where did he send everyone?

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We're not ready for DemonHawk

We have angel

 

[Jackteo]

Ganzui being still alive AND not severed in two is great news for us Wanzui fans. Shiki is a monster, Ganzui must be at the very least YC level.

Silver Axe really got the short end of the stick, he had a separate introduction and yet he barely appeared during the rest of the flashback

 

[HerreraIsBack]

He gets his information through his pawns like Xebec the Gorosei and the HKs. We don’t know the limits of his CoO but his information is just what he is told. Why would he put forth effort when others can do it for him?

Where is said that? He supposedly has a strong CoC, maybe the strongest we ever saw or second/on pair with JoyBoy. You can't have strong CoC without being overall strong so pretty much his CoO should also be strong.

And again if others can do for him why he is even there in first place?

Saturn couldn’t handle it. Xebec could already beat immortals, just not Imu. And it’s not known what happens if Imu tries to control a beaten and damaged body.

Who are you to say Saturn couldn't handle? Gorosei are on another level compared to those Holy Knights bums. We never saw Saturn giving a shot. And he could have summoned all other Gorosei like at Egghead.

Because the marines keep pirates at bay throughout the world and keep the world stable until the day of the flood can occur. The marines are just used to stop people from becoming threats but they’re easily replaceable if needed.

Another reason why he shouldn't attack marines. Being a marine means to also protect Tenryuubito. If they can still attack you when you protect them then no one would become a marine and they wouldn't exist.

They are not clashing equally. And even a downward swing has forward momentum? What we see is WB start to panic and next thing we know a massive dust cloud and crack through the mountain occurs. Same dust cloud that happened when Queen was sent through Onigashima.

There is no panic at all. Whitebeard didn't even bothered to use his weapon he is using only his elbow to clash with him.

The dust is basically the same of WB's powers breaking Marineford

That is true? Shanks’ mom specifically asks dragon not to let Garling have them. They were physically safe there but shanks’ mom didn’t want them to end up like Garling. And Mjosgard who you’re referring to there specifically stated Otohime gave him back his humanity which means he did not have it prior to that.

That's my point. Just growing up as Tenryuubito doesn't mean you don't have humanity or you can't get it back. Also there is Doffy's family, remember.

And yea Shanks's mom who was to dumb to realize how bad people Tenryuubito are specially Garling just suddenly wants their children to be raised by someone good. Shit ass writting.

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Ganzui being still alive AND not severed in two is great news for us Wanzui fans. Shiki is a monster, Ganzui must be at the very least YC level.

Silver Axe really got the short end of the stick, he had a separate introduction and yet he barely appeared during the rest of the flashback

Who gives a shit? Ganzui have no fans. WTF?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Nobody told Loda to draw Mihawk fan request only mentioned rabbit with a pocket watch. What is Loda trying to say here Linyagi @EmperorKinyagi

It's clear:

Carrot will surpass Mihawk soon.

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope we will get a Davy Jones flashback later on to know more about his powers and life.

 

[sanjikun]

You mean I said he was gone?

Not you, but every chapter someone gets hit and gets white eyes we have "they got one shot" comments.

We had about 400 different moments like that in Wano where Kaido gets hit and hurt.

Spoiler

 

[Natalija]

Good point, but we do not know what happened with Eris - she likely met a tragic end since she is not around anymore.

Plus Teach is a villain, he should not have that many excuses.

That's not relevant, what is relevant is that he in fact did not kill her. And so his "tragic" story is less tragic, and also her story is less tragic cause she didn't die protecting Teach from his own dad. Itttttt made the characters into lemonade, who originally could have been perfectly nice lemons.

 

[MonsterKaido]

@MonsterKaido You were saying until I see white eyes Kaido is not K.O.

Bro Kaido was white eyed by pre udon luffy's attacks and scabbard's attacks as well. When did I say the above lol

 

[MonsterKaido]

Man this new theme sucks

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

That's not relevant, what is relevant is that he in fact did not kill her. And so his "tragic" story is less tragic, and also her story is less tragic cause she didn't die protecting Teach from his own dad. Itttttt made the characters into lemonade, who originally could have been perfectly nice lemons.

imagine if Eris is still alive. What if she's Mosa? Imagine if Blackbeard just abandoned her. The old Oda "mother is the opposite of adventure thing" but instead of his mom dying he just left and doesn't care.

 

[sabo]

Rock's wife said "he wasn't ready". There should be some preparation or capacity before fighting Imu.
How does Rocks know about Davy, Joyboy before Roger ?
This shows Rocks was ahead of Roger in terms of understanding of the world.

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imagine if Eris is still alive. What if she's Mosa? Imagine if Blackbeard just abandoned her. The old Oda "mother is the opposite of adventure thing" but instead of his mom dying he just left and doesn't care.

This can be true. Good thinking.
Teach will need help of Gaints as Rocks needed to fight Imu.
Eris is helping Teach to get that help via Loki.

 

[Shyneseru]

Rock's wife said "he wasn't ready". There should be some preparation or capacity before fighting Imu.
How does Rocks know about Davy, Joyboy before Roger ?
This shows Rocks was ahead of Roger in terms of understanding of the world.

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This can be true. Good thinking.
Teach will need help of Gaints as Rocks needed to fight Imu.
Eris is helping Teach to get that help via Loki.

She said that because Rocks needed 2 devil fruits and didn't get a single one before fighting Imu. It's most likely the Yami and for the second one, I thought it could be Nika because it's the obvious 2 opposites fruits but at the same time Blackbeard would know about the Nika fruit too. Which means the Gura doesn't make sense as a replacement, so it has to be another fruit ? Unless Blackbeard didn't think the Nika fruit was useful on a human.

 

[Blax Blah]

She said that because Rocks needed 2 devil fruits and didn't get a single one before fighting Imu. It's most likely the Yami and for the second one, I thought it could be Nika because it's the obvious 2 opposites fruits but at the same time Blackbeard would know about the Nika fruit too. Which means the Gura doesn't make sense as a replacement, so it has to be another fruit ? Unless Blackbeard didn't think the Nika fruit was useful on a human.

Could Xebec eat two fruits?

 

[Shyneseru]

Could Xebec eat two fruits?

The second one was for Harald, Xebec said only a giant would reach the full potential of that fruit. I'm thinking it might be the snake in the mural because it actually is enormous compared to everything on it.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Man webec you really feel for this guy. Sad he came so close. No doubt one of the best characters of one piece.

 

[GeneralP123]

Man webec you really feel for this guy. Sad he came so close. No doubt one of the best characters of one piece.

Always expected him to be a shallow, but badass chaotic evil character, yet he ended up being so much more, he has depth and is very likeable, he isn't even evil.

 

[Logiko]

And yes, it is indeed uninteresting, cheap, boring and even problematic. The only "illusion of analysis" is - as always - you trying to teach others what they should like ot not like, what they have to find boring and not.

i've no problem with your taste, I have a problem when you affirm nonsensical analysis. No, in term of pure narration, it's uninteresting, nor cheap, nor boing nor problematic. Like I said, this is what YOU think. Storytelling is a craft before being something you enjoy and there is nothing wrong with it on a technical standpoint for the moment.

Get a grip on reality for once: not all people like the same thing, and things you find wonderful, others can find awful.

I don't care about what you find awefull (although I start to get pissed off whenthe hatred become a social norm like here) if you tell me "I don't like that because I think x is Y" that's your point of view. I don't have to say shit. But when you make bad general narrative affirmations as truth, I'm forced to intervene and explain to you how storytelling works. And in this case it does.

Again: you did well to come here and say you like the chapter.

I have been saying I like Erbaf (a lot), which might be the best post-TS arc for me if all goes well. This FB is also one of the best of OP, for now. No one is having any problems with that.

Likewise, no one is having any problems when someone says that something was underwhelming, for them.

For them yes, again, here I never read that. On the other hand I read a lot of "one piece is X or Y", and mostly, as I explained, pure hatred. And it's not just once, it's twice three times, four time, it's ALL OVER this place. And sorry, but I'm not the problem and I'm not the one that either needs to quit, or learn to read a story without biases. Because that's precisely what is happening here.

I did, and precisely because of that I think it was poorly written.

Until GV, and with the sole exception of Whang Zi, the betrayal was quite irrelevant, with Shiki throwing a bomb and basically no one having any real problems aside from Kyo having minor injuries. Sengoku said they were killing each other all the time, which unless we are totally disingenuous it hasn't happened.

But more so, both Kaido and WB stood their ground; they acted like a united crew, with BM too, and supported their captain. They didn't betray at all and never were...
So, both Kaido and BM really have no business talking like it was something profoundly personal for them: they never fucking were seriously betrayed.

So you are telling me that you listenned to what a marine admiral said about a pirate and took it has a non-exaggerated truth and then expected what he said to happened because Oda made it seems like somehow there was big drama inside the crew... ok.

But in reality, while being a jerk, Rocks was respected and it was mostly petty betrayals and not straight up murders.

unless Oda wants to sell me they didn't realise there was something wrong with giant Xebec with demonic eyes and teeth and giant wings, which would be one of the dumbest things ever conceived.

They didn't have to question anything mate. You are really creating a problem where there is none on something that happened in less than a few seconds. Really, that why I'm pissed off at people like you here. You isolate contextual information to create a problem in the story that does not exist. And they never made a big deal of out that, you are creating this on your own. It's not their character.

And I am saying I find a critical element lol, I didn't say I have already decided. But alas, I don't like any of the theories I have heard to explain it until now.

And no, as I have said there is no social conditioning at all. I like Erbaf, I like Xebec, I like Harald, all very much; however, I don't like what I have said I don't like.

Oh trust me there is, it's not new and it's not just a One Piece problem. But enough about that. You wanna say something about the story ok. Use "I think" and I won't say shit. But if you start with big truth about the storytelling of One Piece, be prepared to hear what I have to say about that.

 

[Punk Rotten]

What is this obsession you people have with calling a series edgy just because it has a serious tone around it?

That’s accurately describing both. Edgy in the young teenage boy sense. One Piece is an entirely different tone.

 

[Mathias]

Is WB stalling Xebec ? Isn't Xebec supposed to be even stronger than he was already stronger than his number two ?