Volume 113 - Discussion Thread (November 4th, 2025)

Definitely. It felt very odd for Oda to obscure Mama Shamrock so much. That and the fact that Garling has high standards for himself—thought only Shakky the most beautiful girl was worthy of marrying him—makes me think everyone he hooks up with is important.

IMO it plays into child of destiny thing
It´s not like Shakky is of some super noble bloodline or something though. She´s just considered hot, why would we assume that there´s anything more to Shanks mom then her being super attractive in Garlings opinion? It would be one thing if she was implied to be a davy or connected to the king of God Valley, but Garling didn´t even want to wife her up like he did Shakky.

And it´s not like Gaban ever met Shanks´s mom, so I doubt she would be connected to why Shanks is the child of destiny. Frankly, I think it´s probably related to the fact that Shanks is the only known survivor of GV they would have known about, or maybe because he was CD who didn´t live in Mariejois.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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Zoro’s most important opponent isn’t on the doublespread, but somehow he fights Shamrock
Best case scenario gets santoryu battle with the dog of hell, king of hell theme
Garling is on the colourspread and he got dogwalked lmfao that means nothing anymore.
 
It´s not like Shakky is of some super noble bloodline or something though. She´s just considered hot, why would we assume that there´s anything more to Shanks mom then her being super attractive in Garlings opinion? It would be one thing if she was implied to be a davy or connected to the king of God Valley, but Garling didn´t even want to wife her up like he did Shakky.

And it´s not like Gaban ever met Shanks´s mom, so I doubt she would be connected to why Shanks is the child of destiny. Frankly, I think it´s probably related to the fact that Shanks is the only known survivor of GV they would have known about, or maybe because he was CD who didn´t live in Mariejois.
Shanks mother is descendant of Joyboy.

Remember this take.
 
Garling is on the colourspread and he got dogwalked lmfao that means nothing anymore.
Yeah, but the fact that Garling, Shamrock and Sabo and Dragon are on that color spread, and one side representing the will of D while one side represents celestial dragons, probably would make more sense for them to fight then Zoro vs either of them.
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Shanks mother is descendant of Joyboy.

Remember this take.
The world government believes in the sins of the parents transfer to the child, which is why they hunted down Ace. There´s no possible way they would let Shamrock remain a CD if he was mixed with the descendent of their greatest enemy.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Dogwalked as some rookie god knight scrub
Garling is a Gorosei now, champion of god valley, may as well be the main character from CD side
At least Warling didn’t try to measure no distance towards the strongest pirate
No he tried jump him with his family and god negged diffed instead of losing interest in a cancer patient
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Yeah, but the fact that Garling, Shamrock and Sabo and Dragon are on that color spread, and one side representing the will of D while one side represents celestial dragons, probably would make more sense for them to fight then Zoro vs either of them.
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The world government believes in the sins of the parents transfer to the child, which is why they hunted down Ace. There´s no possible way they would let Shamrock remain a CD if he was mixed with the descendent of their greatest enemy.
Means nothing
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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It´s not like Shakky is of some super noble bloodline or something though. She´s just considered hot, why would we assume that there´s anything more to Shanks mom then her being super attractive in Garlings opinion? It would be one thing if she was implied to be a davy or connected to the king of God Valley, but Garling didn´t even want to wife her up like he did Shakky.

And it´s not like Gaban ever met Shanks´s mom, so I doubt she would be connected to why Shanks is the child of destiny. Frankly, I think it´s probably related to the fact that Shanks is the only known survivor of GV they would have known about, or maybe because he was CD who didn´t live in Mariejois.
Shakky was the most desired woman in the world, that's a level of special that Garling reserves for himself. So you gotta wonder, what other qualifications would he have for his women?

She ain't normal and expect to see more from that side of the fam. The fact the redhair comes from her is already suspicious, it's a link away from Garling to Shanks' most obvious trait.
 
Getting such a high profile VA shows he's gonna be involved heavily in either elfab or a future arc. Like yamatoe got Hayami Saori.

I'm betting a future arc. Prolly the final war.
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Shakky was the most desired woman in the world, that's a level of special that Garling reserves for himself. So you gotta wonder, what other qualifications would he have for his women?

She ain't normal and expect to see more from that side of the fam. The fact the redhair comes from her is already suspicious, it's a link away from Garling to Shanks' most obvious trait.
There's also the child of destiny stuff

It can't be just cause shank was the son of garlic

Its most likely cause shank is a combination of garlic's son and something else that's special related to his mom. She might be a davy too.
 
Shakky was the most desired woman in the world, that's a level of special that Garling reserves for himself. So you gotta wonder, what other qualifications would he have for his women?
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But again, Shakky was to be his wife, Shanks´s mom was only for pump and dump status. I mean, that isn´t to say she couldn´t have had significant traits that interested Garling, if we were to assume that Garling is like an evil scientist trying to create the most ideal kids or something, but I don´t understand how Shanks´s mom is supposed to elevate him to being the child of destiny, when the Roger pirates found him randomly in a treasure chest with context. Even if we are to assume Shanks found out from his father, we would have to at least assume his mom doesn´t have the will of D, since Shanks never attached that to his name. But I don´t want to debate a theory so much, just the idea that Shamrock is on a completely different level then his father.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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But again, Shakky was to be his wife, Shanks´s mom was only for pump and dump status. I mean, that isn´t to say she couldn´t have had significant traits that interested Garling, if we were to assume that Garling is like an evil scientist trying to create the most ideal kids or something, but I don´t understand how Shanks´s mom is supposed to elevate him to being the child of destiny, when the Roger pirates found him randomly in a treasure chest with context. Even if we are to assume Shanks found out from his father, we would have to at least assume his mom doesn´t have the will of D, since Shanks never attached that to his name. But I don´t want to debate a theory so much, just the idea that Shamrock is on a completely different level then his father.
Her physical gifts don't matter cause she was the #1 most desired by everyone who's important, turning Xebec into a simp for years and making Whitebeard go Tsundere mode. She was a status symbol and all's I'm saying, it's very likely he fucked a woman who was deemed as important for another reason.

Garling seems to put great value into who he's with.
 
Getting such a high profile VA shows he's gonna be involved heavily in either elfab or a future arc. Like yamatoe got Hayami Saori.

I'm betting a future arc. Prolly the final war.
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There's also the child of destiny stuff

It can't be just cause shank was the son of garlic

Its most likely cause shank is a combination of garlic's son and something else that's special related to his mom. She might be a davy too.
Greenbull got Vergo and Sukuna's VA
We got 2 chapters of content
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Or is this guy more famous
 
Her physical gifts don't matter cause she was the #1 most desired by everyone who's important, turning Xebec into a simp for years and making Whitebeard go Tsundere mode. She was a status symbol and all's I'm saying, it's very likely he fucked a woman who was deemed as important for another reason.

Garling seems to put great value into who he's with.
Fair enough, I can agree to disagree. The only mother character in the series that I can see maybe end up being relevant is Luffys. or his grandma.
 
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