Speculations Kid and Law are probably showing up in the second act of Elbaf

#26
The thing is Oda wrote himself into a situation where some sort of asspull Hail Mary is needed to save the SHs. Multiple ones, in fact.

Just look at the GV fight for reference. Imu is unbeatable and he’ll probably domi Loki, who himself will be above top tier once domi’d.

In egghead you had the giant warriors show up to save the SHs. Who could do that in elbaf?

Kid sunk off the shores of elbaf and could easily be in a prison somewhere on the island. Law should be in the area as Elbaf is one of a few islands close to winner island.
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Other possible Hail Marys:
  • The ancient technology building
  • Nika powers
  • Burn scar man
  • Mosa
  • Mariejois situation
  • Revolutionaries
But atm I feel like it’s all equally possible and Oda can really just do whatever here
If the situation is so bad kidd and law aren't making much difference here. If imu will just domi reverse loki what's stopping him from doing it to kidd and law who look even weaker than loki? It's obvious sh's are going to get some kinda boost to fight imu. There's a reason oda let the situation get so bad with the 4 strongest characters away. If they can't handle it and would get washed adding kidd and law doesn't help much.

Thing with kidd and law we know where they were and we know they were beaten badly. Oda would have to explain how they recovered, how the knew to come exactly to elbaf especially kidd since he just got completely demolished by giants so why would he help them, then how they are going to change a situation that loki zoro sanki and luffy have no apparent hope of? None of these really make any sense. We should get updates on them likely at the end of the arc or early next arc but it's highly doubtful they show up just ready to help luffy. Kidd would hate the giants now and would only team up if he absolutely has to which he has 0 reason to do. Kidd would attack the giants making loki and the sh's have to fight against him to save them. Law is nowhere around nor even knows what's going on and his major concern should be his crew that's scattered if not dead instead of helping luffy.
 
#27
If the situation is so bad kidd and law aren't making much difference here. If imu will just domi reverse loki what's stopping him from doing it to kidd and law who look even weaker than loki? It's obvious sh's are going to get some kinda boost to fight imu. There's a reason oda let the situation get so bad with the 4 strongest characters away. If they can't handle it and would get washed adding kidd and law doesn't help much.

Thing with kidd and law we know where they were and we know they were beaten badly. Oda would have to explain how they recovered, how the knew to come exactly to elbaf especially kidd since he just got completely demolished by giants so why would he help them, then how they are going to change a situation that loki zoro sanki and luffy have no apparent hope of? None of these really make any sense. We should get updates on them likely at the end of the arc or early next arc but it's highly doubtful they show up just ready to help luffy. Kidd would hate the giants now and would only team up if he absolutely has to which he has 0 reason to do. Kidd would attack the giants making loki and the sh's have to fight against him to save them. Law is nowhere around nor even knows what's going on and his major concern should be his crew that's scattered if not dead instead of helping luffy.
There is the theory that domi reversi only works on people in their own homeland

Plus Kid could just attack from far away
 
#28
There is the theory that domi reversi only works on people in their own homeland

Plus Kid could just attack from far away
That could be possible since imu only domi reversed rocks in gv and only the giants in elbaf. But that's only a guess and it's just as possible they could do it anywhere.

The giants just played a role in demolishing kidd's crew. Kidd isn't jumping to come help them just because luffy and the sh's are there. Kidd would attack the giants before imu's side as he knows nothing of imu and imu hasn't done anything to him. My point to mdt is that if the situation is so outta hand that luffy loki zoro and sanji can do nothing about it then adding kidd and law does nothing to change that. Oda would still have to explain why they are there to help, how they got there, how they recovered from thier injuries so fast to just jump back to help luffy when they have much bigger concerns. In wano it makes sense they could recover in a few days as they had world class doctors and Sanji's cooking. For law he was beaten to his limit and to the point he couldn't move or could barely move and would have ran to a safe island. I doubt some random island just has great doctors to patch law up quickly even with law trying to help them. Then why wouldn't law focus on his crew instead of running to save luffy? Kidd was completely koed and should have severe injuries. On top of that he was sunk into the ocean needing a miracle to save him. The giants and shanks have no reason to save him and his only hope is that a passing ship got him or 1 of his crew had a df that could help in that situation. Even with that Kidd would have to go to another island to recover and he'd want revenge on shanks and the giants not running to help luffy.
 
#30
If the situation is so bad kidd and law aren't making much difference here. If imu will just domi reverse loki what's stopping him from doing it to kidd and law who look even weaker than loki?
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Imu’s laziness, maybe the situation in MJ, not too sure.

regardless Luffy has stamina issues and is going to get washed if he doesn’t have someone to switch with as he recovers.

Domi Loki is probably going to be beyond yonko level.
 
#33
To me it also sounded like that marked the end of the Kid Pirates. They might be a part of another crew, but as a standalone crew they might be over.
It’s fake tension

All Dorry and Brogy did was split the ship in half, I doubt any major members of the crew died.
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Still perhaps Kid and Law will team up to form a new crew.
 
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#34
Doubt it. This arc ironically doesnt seem scaled for it. Elbaf still fits basic arc structure and right now nothing is implying anything more than the 3 GKs we have w/Imu plus any Domi'ed Giants (i.e. maybe Loki). Imo the Burned Scar Man probably saved Barto and Kid's crews considering hes involved in creating whirlpools/sinking ships and they both sunk to the sea ironically by Shanks' crew (which tells me he knows something about it considering I cant see Shanks intending to kill off either crew now)

Idk if they'll come back next arc (honestly it depends on if Urouge gets utilized finally ir not), but I assume everyone will be involced in the endgame anyway full stop.
 
#35
Doubt it. This arc ironically doesnt seem scaled for it. Elbaf still fits basic arc structure and right now nothing is implying anything more than the 3 GKs we have w/Imu plus any Domi'ed Giants (i.e. maybe Loki). Imo the Burned Scar Man probably saved Barto and Kid's crews considering hes involved in creating whirlpools/sinking ships and they both sunk to the sea ironically by Shanks' crew (which tells me he knows something about it considering I cant see Shanks intending to kill off either crew now)

Idk if they'll come back next arc (honestly it depends on if Urouge gets utilized finally ir not), but I assume everyone will be involced in the endgame anyway full stop.
It just seems like Elbaf is massively fucked at the moment. Not even Rocks could stand up to Imu.
 
#36
Imu’s laziness, maybe the situation in MJ, not too sure.

regardless Luffy has stamina issues and is going to get washed if he doesn’t have someone to switch with as he recovers.

Domi Loki is probably going to be beyond yonko level.
By what you are saying how does kidd and law change the situation? They need more than that in this situation. Imo we are going to get updates on them soon but them coming this arc is highly unlikely. By what you are saying the sh's need shanks and Rayleigh to show up not kidd and law.
 
#39
Still have major law fatigue so hope you’re wrong. Kidd on the other hand needs more development and could use a Haki bloom with further mastery of his fruit so he’s welcome back
 
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